Comparison Kubota BX25D. Vs Mahindra 22max

[Airportbum365]

I am looking to buy one of these tractors
Not sure which one to go with.
Any advice?

 

[4shorts]

I am looking to buy one of these tractors
Not sure which one to go with.
Any advice?

Yup. Get the Kubota BX25D. Well you asked :confused3:

 

[Gary Fowler]

I don't know much about either tractor but compare the capacities of both and see which one tops out with best lift, break out force, reach, digging depth, etc. Then look at the warranty and see which is better. Kubota will likely have a better resale value down the road if you decide to sell later on.

The BX is a dedicated TLB where the Mahindra is an add on. I think the 22 Max is a slightly larger tractor so it should be more capable with regard to FEL lift height and weight. Do the online comparison and let us know what you decide.
P.S. The Mahindra likely doesn't have the infamous HST cooling fans that are exposed to sticks and stones like the Kubota BX series does so that may be an advantage if operation is going to be in the woods. The 22Max likely has larger tires also which will be another advantage in ground clearance.

 

[LD1]

Any advice?

Drive both.

 

[Airportbum365]

Yup. Get the Kubota BX25D. Well you asked :confused3:

Wow! Are you ever connected Paul !
I watch your videos all the time!
It's become a daily thing

On one hand the Kubota dealer is less than a km from my house which is obviously a plus

But the lift capacity is much higher on the mahindra with a lower base price

?????

 

[4shorts]

Wow! Are you ever connected Paul !
I watch your videos all the time!
It's become a daily thing

On one hand the Kubota dealer is less than a km from my house which is obviously a plus

But the lift capacity is much higher on the mahindra with a lower base price

?????

:laughing: Ah I just couldn't resist. It's the evil in me :laughing:. Gary Fowler pretty well summed it up. He gave you about the best logical advice so I'd follow his recommendations. All that being said I like the Kubota BX25D
Glad your enjoying our video's. Should have another one up in a day or two.
Thanks for watching.

 

[DavesTractor]

You would be well pleased with either unit I think. The Max25 is built like a regular compact tractor, the BX is built as a SCUT. What is a SCUT? That is open to debate, but my current thought is that a SCUT will have a ladder frame with the components bolted onto it, like a serious riding lawn mower on steroids. Generally they have a transaxle in the back with a plastic cooling fan. Generally they have closer spacing on the 3-point, they will use Category 0 spacing with Category 1 pin sizes. A CUT (B-series in Kubota) will be built like a conventional tractor, just like a 50HP farm tractor, but smaller and will have standard Cat 1 pins and spacing. If they have a hydro, they have an oil cooler out by the radiator instead of a fan underneath.

A SCUT is lighter and probably a better mowing tractor. I think a CUT, like a B-series Kubota or a Max22/25 would in theory be a little more robust in the long term, heavier, a little stronger, designed for a higher duty cycle. That being said, folks that own the BX's seem universally happy with them, so obviously that sort of design is more than adequate for most uses. The eMax Mahindra is more along the lines of the BX Kubota, the Max Mahindra is more like a B series.

My favorite little tractor is the Max25. It has the same engine as the Max28 and the 3016, just rated at a lower RPM. Big engine, running slowly. Conventional structure for the drivetrain, and it is backhoe ready and comes with the three-point arms standard, heavy drawbar (for a little tractor anyway) and a 5 year warranty standard. We market the Max25 as a SCUT since it is physically nearly the same size and has a very similar turning radius, etc. You might argue that Mahindra has tried riding both sides of the fence on whether a Max is a SCUT or a CUT and I suppose that may be true.

I think the Kubota fans will say that the BX is the way to go since they own one and like what they own. The BX is the segment leader in sales, and that does not happen without happy customers. I'll agree they are good machines, so let me make it clear that I am not saying otherwise. I am though, making a distinction between the basic tractor structures. That may or may not matter to many folks. For me, if I can have a conventional tractor in a small size with a big engine turning low rpms, I would favor that.

 

[Grandad4]

That's a very good summary, Dave!

 

[Airportbum365]

Thanks for the info

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

I have a Kubota BX23, which is a earlier model TLB similar to the BX25. And I love it.

I was at my Mahindra dealer a couple of weeks ago and sat on an eMax 22 and a Max28 (same frame size as the Max25, I think). The eMax 22 seemed to be similar in size to my BX23, while the Max 28 was definitely a larger frame size, and is just beefier all over. I love my BX23, but I think I would be very happy with a Max25 or Max28 with a frame mounted backhoe on it.

Not sure of the specs on the backhoe for the Max22 or Max25, but compare their specs to the Kubota BX25. A little more reach and and little more digging power is always a good thing.

One great thing about the Kubota BX series is that the aftermarket for them is huge. Places like BXpanded and Bro-Tek make all sorts of goodies for them, such as belly plates (to protect that plastic HST fan), backhoe thumbs, wheel spacers, ripper teeth, etc.

 

[GManBart]

Oh brother...one of the seemingly most contentious topics there has ever been on TBN.

For whatever reason, some folks take exception to even making a comparison between these two models....and are very vocal about it. In reality, if you don't have any specific criteria (like a door you need to fit through), both will do a great job, so go run both of them and see if you like the way one feels better than the other. Sometimes it's small things that will cause years of annoyance, so let that guide you to which will make you happier in the long run.

Nearly exact same topic here (before the "D" confusion with the latest model):

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...5-mahindra-max22.html?highlight=bx+versus+max

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...-vs-mahindra-max.html?highlight=bx+versus+max

 

[chvfrk98]

My choice was between the BX25D and the Max28XL. I ended up getting the Max28XL. Main reasons were as some mentioned, the construction. It's built a little more like a tractor.
MMM is substantially more heavy duty, plate steel vs a stamped steel deck. A true drive over deck.
No cooling fans underneath.
Higher capacity FEL and backhoe.
Engine runs at a lower rpm so it's quieter.
Just general larger size fit me better.
Positional 3-pt control. Works to keep the implement down.
The heavier weight overall works alot better in your favor when actually using the tractor to work/traction.

To be honest it was more expensive and my comparison ended up closer to the B3200 but that became a little more expensive even with the great price I received from Barlows. Capacity and weight issues were alot closer but there was still the flimsier deck and frame. The backhoe had to add additional support to the frame although it was a little stronger capacity wise.

Like said above, go drive both and see what you like and determine what you can live with. Make sure it easily accomplishes what you want it to do because you will always need to do a little more.

Good luck.

 

[Bota4me]

For me i wanted a true tlb so i went with a bx25. Wanted a frame mount bh not a 3ph mount. Bx just looks beefier in the bh mounts. But mahindra has an advantage in fel capabilities so that may be a help. Both nice tractors imo

 

[chvfrk98]

bota4me. The max should be frame mounted. The way you said it sounds like the one you looked at was 3-pt?
With both being mounted and the mahindra being more cast than stamped structure I would bet the max is more solid. That being said I'm sure neither is over working their mounting. It would just come down to the specs. Just wish the were all tested the same so we could more readily believe the "numbers".

 

[Bota4me]

bota4me. The max should be frame mounted. The way you said it sounds like the one you looked at was 3-pt? With both being mounted and the mahindra being more cast than stamped structure I would bet the max is more solid. That being said I'm sure neither is over working their mounting. It would just come down to the specs. Just wish the were all tested the same so we could more readily believe the "numbers".

i looked at jd , mahindra and kubota and i agree max looks beefier than Regular bx series the tlb bx25 has a frame made for bh and fel and is just stouter looking than max and jd and it works for me i use the bh a lot.
Take a look at them but they are all nice and ALL real tractors.

 

[DavesTractor]

Mahindra uses a similar frame mount system for the backhoe as the Kubota uses, basically 4 points, nice and sturdy.

Max28XL (Tier IV = Max26XL) is a little larger than the Max22/25 (Tier IV = Max24). It is heavier and longer than the Max25 size.

At least on one model that I recall, the Kubota had more backhoe digging force, and the Mahindra had more loader lift capacity. But I suspect that both perform well. Too much loader lift becomes of little use as you can only get so much in the bucket and there is only so much you can lift and keep the tail of the tractor down. Likewise a backhoe with over the top forces will just yank around the tractor and pull it toward the hole as opposed to pulling dirt from the hole. It's all about balance, but we all like numbers and specs, so the mfgs try to make them as big as possible without breaking things or making things unsafe.

I think on these two models, a person would want to figure out if he wanted a ladder frame or a conventional style tractor. Mahindra and Kubota make both. Then compare those as evenly as possible when considering your uses. If everything else is a wash, go with the better dealer.

 

[Bota4me]

Mahindra uses a similar frame mount system for the backhoe as the Kubota uses, basically 4 points, nice and sturdy. Max28XL (Tier IV = Max26XL) is a little larger than the Max22/25 (Tier IV = Max24). It is heavier and longer than the Max25 size. At least on one model that I recall, the Kubota had more backhoe digging force, and the Mahindra had more loader lift capacity. But I suspect that both perform well. Too much loader lift becomes of little use as you can only get so much in the bucket and there is only so much you can lift and keep the tail of the tractor down. Likewise a backhoe with over the top forces will just yank around the tractor and pull it toward the hole as opposed to pulling dirt from the hole. It's all about balance, but we all like numbers and specs, so the mfgs try to make them as big as possible without breaking things or making things unsafe. I think on these two models, a person would want to figure out if he wanted a ladder frame or a conventional style tractor. Mahindra and Kubota make both. Then compare those as evenly as possible when considering your uses. If everything else is a wash, go with the better dealer.

Good advice dave i may have looked at a 22 or 25 as i cannot remember.... But your right, go with best dealer and whatever particular tractor
"Works" for you. All good imo and your right about weight vs forces applied. I load up my fel to try keep tractor on ground with heavy bh digging as it gets thrown around like like a 110 lb kid running a jackhammer at times

 

[DavesTractor]

i looked at jd , mahindra and kubota and i agree max looks beefier than Regular bx series the tlb bx25 has a frame made for bh and fel and is just stouter looking than max and jd and it works for me i use the bh a lot.
Take a look at them but they are all nice and ALL real tractors.

I do like the backhoe attachment on the BX25. We had one here for a while, and it is a quality unit. We had just the attachment, not the entire BX tractor. We made a sub-frame and mounted it on a used Mahindra. The orange and red clashed....but it worked well.

 

[Bota4me]

One thing i think someone pointed out and is VERY important is kubotas hydro fan.... Not a worry for me as im not in tall grass or woods but, if your going in woods rocks etc the mahindra has a clear advantage with no fan to trash. Just another thing to think about as that fan is a big job im told to replace$$...

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

The hydro fan on the BX is not a big issue. BXpanded offers their belly armor that shields it.