Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me

   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me #11  
The Massey is a good little tractor and there are slowly more aftermarket accessories being made for it. I think that is still one area where the BX creams the competition -- it has had years and years of aftermarket support for accessories.

I wouldn't let treadle configuration enter in to the decision unless you had some sort of handicap or disability where it really mattered. I operate both types of treadle / pedal arrangements from time to time, and find that after a couple minutes, I am focused on the work and my foot has figured out how to do what it needs to do. It gets so bad/intuitive that I will climb into my truck at the end of the day and try to stab my foot for reverse....

Good luck!
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me #12  
The Massey is a good little tractor and there are slowly more aftermarket accessories being made for it. I think that is still one area where the BX creams the competition -- it has had years and years of aftermarket support for accessories.

I wouldn't let treadle configuration enter in to the decision unless you had some sort of handicap or disability where it really mattered. I operate both types of treadle / pedal arrangements from time to time, and find that after a couple minutes, I am focused on the work and my foot has figured out how to do what it needs to do. It gets so bad/intuitive that I will climb into my truck at the end of the day and try to stab my foot for reverse....

Good luck!
I hope my initial post in response wasn't taken as negative... but I think s219 nailed it... available accessories were a major consideration for me. I added a Piranha Tooth Bar (the best thing I did), Under Armor, Hooks, and a few other goodies. You may want to take a look at BXpanded and BroTek aftermarket companies and see if there are accessories you may want that are also available for a Massey SCUT. Also a consideration is the size of the buying and selling market of used equipment for the BX. The pedal was learning curve was pretty much instant for me but I wasn't already used to any other tractor configuration.
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me
  • Thread Starter
#13  
I appreciate all the responses, and thank you for them. Whether pro or con, they all help. I agree with what is being said. I have looked at BXpanded. Fortunately the Piranha is also available for the Massey, but that is not true for all of their interesting stuff. I will buy the Piranha and add it to my tractor very soon, for sure.

Basically, I have what I consider to be "core" needs, and then there are fringe niceties. The core needs are mowing, trenching, digging post holes, leveling a driveway once in a while, and removing some existing landscaping (junipers.) As the dealer said, all of the machines will meet my needs. Attachments are available for both machines to meet my core needs. BXpanded has a 4" bucket option for the Kubota but not the Massey. So when I run sprinkler lines I will miss having that, but it's not like I can't get the job done. I am not considering resale value in the purchase decision as I don't intend to resell whatever I buy. And based on what I have learned there is a good market for *any* used SCUT-- they seem to sell instantly in my area. Right now I can't find any for sale locally.

So, that leaves personal preference and dealer availability and support. I have two Massey dealers within an hour or two, and while I would prefer one right down the street that is OK with me. I can do regular servicing, so that means I am in need of a dealer if repairs are needed. There are two Kubota dealers reasonably nearby, and another about an hour away.

Yesterday, I again looked at the Massey 1710 and Kubota BX-25D. I also drove the Massey for the first time-- no surprises. The more I look, the more I appreciate how similar they are. Today I will see a Massey 1720. I expect to make a purchase decision today or tomorrow and take delivery by this weekend!! On something!! My only regret while shopping was that I could not drive a Massey and Kubota side-by-side. I was able to drive a Kubota BX25 and John Deere 1025R side-by-side and that was very helpful. (To rule out the John Deere!)

Now a confession. I do have some chronic back pain, as rigorous medical treatments I received nearly 10 years ago weakened my lower spine and caused other issues. General health is fine, but my back can "tweak" at times due to that history. When I test drove the BX, it tweaked my back slightly when I lifted my foot to press on the rear heel treadle for the very first time. (It didn't do that with the John Deere 1025R pedals.) If you are now wondering how I am going to survive riding a bumpy SCUT while mowing a pasture, I sort-of have the same concern but I am sure it will work out just fine. Cruise control will be my friend. And to be fair, in subsequent visits while sitting on the Kubota, I could do the toe/heel thing just fine-- although that was not while running. I am guessing this was a one-time quirk that "colored" my view of the BX. Not sure.

I will make a final purchase decision either today or tomorrow, and take delivery by this weekend. I have negotiated prices in hand for the 1710, 1720, and BX. I will share these in a separate post in the forum. Thank you again for all of the replies. You have all been very helpful.
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me #14  
Does either machine have cruse control?
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me
  • Thread Starter
#15  
I've never owned either machine. But according to factory literature, both have cruise control.
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me #16  
Man that sure was a lot of words to say you like one machine over the Kubota. We have two BXs and a JD1025R and I'm sure the MF or others would be fine as well. I can use treadle or side by side equally as well, but a couple of people have accidentally hit reverse rather than forward on our John Deeres, that pretty much goes away with time though.

One thing I will ad is, a SCUT really isn't going to be very comfortable with a really bad back, every one I've used rides rougher than the next size up with more weight and larger tires. I no longer use ours much leaving them to my wife while I run the bigger tractors, she prefers them over our L and M anyway.

Enjoy your new tractor whatever you get.
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me #17  
Phew, yeah, if you have a bad back or a sensitive back, all of the small tractors are going to be an issue. For that reason alone, I'd at least consider moving up to the next size in order to get a little more wheelbase. That will have a big impact (no pun intended) on ride quality. Being heavier and having a longer wheelbase will both help a lot. Just for kicks, look at a Kubota B2301 and B2601 and their competitor's equivalents.
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me
  • Thread Starter
#18  
Recently had dinner with a good friend who has 3.5 level acres (one more acre than me) and a B-series Kubota. Probably like a B2301 I am guessing. He advised getting an "L" model, as he felt his "B" model was a little on the light side for his property. Yikes! I appreciate the advice-- I will look at the smaller B series tractors from Kubota.
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me #19  
I see no need for an L and if not for back issues a SCUT would be ideal. We have tractor from 22 to 85HP and still need a BX on a regular basis. We have a BX2200 we just leave the MMM off with FEL on along with a box scraper or tiller and leave our BX2660 and 1025R for mowing.

B is a good tractor, but so is Kioti etc., so see what fits you the best.
 
   / Kubota BX25D, a seeming market and price leader, but not for me #20  
Recently had dinner with a good friend who has 3.5 level acres (one more acre than me) and a B-series Kubota. Probably like a B2301 I am guessing. He advised getting an "L" model, as he felt his "B" model was a little on the light side for his property. Yikes! I appreciate the advice-- I will look at the smaller B series tractors from Kubota.
We have a BX2660, a B7500 and a L3830.
The bigger machines ride better than the smaller ones do, but it sounds like anything bigger than a B will be too big.
A lot of that has to do with the wheelbase (less see-sawing) and the more tire sidewall height (to absorb bumps).

Aaron Z
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

MLE 4188CR Clean Room Scissor Lift (A49346)
MLE 4188CR Clean...
Tandem Axle Rear Truck Frame (A48081)
Tandem Axle Rear...
AIR POWERED TONGS (A50854)
AIR POWERED TONGS...
2010 Honda Civic Sedan (A50860)
2010 Honda Civic...
2019 Ford F-350 4x4 Ext. Cab Palfinger PSC 3216 4,000LB Crane Service Truck (A48081)
2019 Ford F-350...
4- 6 DRILL COLLARS (A50854)
4- 6 DRILL COLLARS...
 
Top