Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h

   / Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h #21  
I want to use a flail mover. Will <25 horsepower be enough?

Will you flail only grass? How high will the grass be?

How much time do you wish to devote to mowing during HOT weather?
LINK: Mowing Calcuator | How many acres can I mow in an hour



After 11,500 posts on T-B-N I find it baffling how few new members specify their location.

I find it difficult, sometimes impossible, to post solid information without knowing where the OP will operate the tractor.

Here are my reasons for wanting OP location.

ALTIITUDE - Tractors lose 3% of engine power output for every 1,000' altitude increase, over 1,500' Sometimes twenty posts will be made advising on tractor horsepower, then we find OP is a 6,500 feet altitude and is considering a low power, naturally aspirated tractor.

WEATHER - ESPECIALLY SNOW - Blowing snow and mowing are the two tasks that require considerable engine power. If we know an OP is in Buffalo, NY rather than Key West, FL snow needs are apparent.

WEATHER - Large swathes of the country have a continental climate, four seasons, with great temperature variations between winters and summers.
Areas near the coast have varying maritime climates.

PRICING - Tractor and implement pricing and dealer service pricing varies a great deal. Lowest prices are usually in the south. Prices along the west coast and in the northeast are usually highest.

Some states exempt agriculture and forestry equipment from state sales taxes. Florida is one example of liberal ag sales tax exemptions.

IMPLEMENTS - Availability of implements brands are regional, not national. ie: CountyLine, Rural King, etc.

SOIL AND GROWING SEASON - Whether game food plots or market crops, soil and length of growing season(s) in important. Soil type influences tire selection.

USED TRACTORS - When the OP posts a location, OP is often referred to good used tractors nearby or provided local tractor listings from Craig's List, eBay, TractorHouse, Machinery Peter or other sites.

Everyone on T-B-N has a screen name, as anonymous as they like. Any other profile information is contributed voluntarily, such as age and tractor brand/model. Relative to the massive data heists reported so often, with names, address, Social Security and credit card numbers stolen, this site is nearly anonymous.
 
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   / Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h
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#22  
My property is 3 acres.

I have approximately 1,200 ft of County unmaintained Road which will require regular box blade work, including a lot of roots. Plus I want to widen it enough so two vehicles can squeeze by it'll be a lot of trees from 4 in or less diameter I will need to remove.


BRANSON 2610H​

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase​
65.7 in (1670)
Overall Length (W/ 3PT)​
122.9 in (3,122 mm)
Min.Overall Width​
53.8 in (1,369 mm)
Overall Height (W/ ROPS)​
91.5 in (2,328 mm)
Ground Clearance (4WD)​
15.1 in (382 mm)
Min.Turning Radius (W/ Brake)​
9.61 ft (2.93 m)
Weight​
2106 lbs (956 kg)

ENGINE
Engine Model​
A1100N2 IDI NA
Aspiration​
Natural
Emissions Standards​
Tier 4
Engine Gross Power​
24 hp (17.9 kW)
PTO Power​
18 hp (13.5 kW)
No. of Cylinders​
3
Displacement​
71.7 cu.in (1,175 cc)
Rated Revolution​
2800 RPM

Normally I would consider a 2,106 pound bare weight tractor ample for three acres of property maintenance. However, you will have to be willing to spend many hours maintaining your 1,200' root laced road with a box blade. Unless your soil is soft, you will only be able to move dirt when the soil is moist.

Consider that engine displacement is only 71.7 cubic inches. Generating this power requires engine revs of 2,800 rpm, so the engine will likely be fairly loud and the HST may whine. Also the 24-horsepower gross is at sea level. If you are above 3,500' or so in altitude, power generated will be less.
Also, this model has 15.1" of ground clearance, so it is going to feel fairly tippy, even with liquid rear tire ballast, to a novice operator working a rutted/uneven road.


BRANSON 2515R​

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase​
65.7 in (1,670 mm)
Overall Length (W/ 3PT)​
120.9 in (3,071 mm)
Min.Overall Width​
56.3 in (1,430 mm)
Overall Height (W/ ROPS)​
97.3 in (2,471 mm)
Ground Clearance (4WD)​
14.4 in (366 mm)
Min.Turning Radius (W/ Brake)​
7.51 in (2.29 mm)
Weight​
2,989 lbs (1,356 kg)

ENGINE
Engine Model​
Branson A1700N6 IDI
Aspiration​
Natural
Emissions Standards​
Tier 4
Engine Gross Power​
24 hp (18 kW)
PTO Power​
21 hp (15.7 kW)
No. of Cylinders​
3
Displacement​
104.5 cu.in (1,714 cc)
Rated Revolution​
2100 RPM

Not too difficult to discern the advantage of the 2515R for road maintenance. The Synchoshuttle transmission will transfer motive power to the wheels about 10% more efficiently than the HST transmission. The additional 883 pounds will make this tractor feel significantly more solidly plant on the ground.

With a bare weight of 2,989 pounds, motivated by 24-horsepower, I would probably NOT add rear tire ballast. Put the rear weight into the Box Blade. There is only so much work 24-horsepower can do.
Thank you your info is always really good. Really appreciate it.
 
   / Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h #23  
I honestly feel they're all too small and light. I'd highly recommend go up a model. I also wouldn't even consider a two range transmission in a hydro. I have used both.

I'd look at the CK 2610 or Mahindra 1626.

I have 28 acres on East Tennessee. Plenty of hills and trees and I love my 1626.
 
   / Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h #24  
I have 28 acres on East Tennessee. Plenty of hills and trees and I love my 1626.
The OP has 3 acres. Ocala, Florida is almost flat. Ocala soil is sandy loam.
 
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   / Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h
  • Thread Starter
#26  
My property is three (3) acres.

In addition to my three acres, I have approximately 1,200 ft of unmaintained County Road which will require regular box blade work, including a lot of roots. Plus I want to increase road width so two vehicles can squeeze by. I will need to remove lot of trees four inches or less in diameter.


BRANSON 2610H​

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase​
65.7 in (1670)
Overall Length (W/ 3PT)​
122.9 in (3,122 mm)
Min.Overall Width​
53.8 in (1,369 mm)
Overall Height (W/ ROPS)​
91.5 in (2,328 mm)
Ground Clearance (4WD)​
15.1 in (382 mm)
Min.Turning Radius (W/ Brake)​
9.61 ft (2.93 m)
Weight​
2106 lbs (956 kg)

ENGINE
Engine Model​
A1100N2 IDI NA
Aspiration​
Natural
Emissions Standards​
Tier 4
Engine Gross Power​
24 hp (17.9 kW)
PTO Power​
18 hp (13.5 kW)
No. of Cylinders​
3
Displacement​
71.7 cu.in (1,175 cc)
Rated Revolution​
2800 RPM

I consider a 2,106 pound bare weight tractor ample for three acres of property maintenance. However, your county owned, 1,200' unmaintained road alters the calculation. You will have to be willing to spend many hours maintaining your 1,200' root laced road with a box blade pulled behind a 2,106 pound bare weight tractor. Unless your soil is soft, you will only be able to move dirt when the soil is optimally moist.

Consider that engine displacement is only 71.7 cubic inches. Generating this power requires engine revs of 2,800 rpm, so the engine will likely be fairly loud and the HST may whine. The 24-horsepower gross is at sea level. If you are above 3,500' or so in altitude, power generated will be less.
This light model has 15.1" of ground clearance, so it is going to feel fairly tippy, even with essential liquid rear tire ballast, to a novice operator working a rutted/uneven road.


BRANSON 2515R​

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase​
65.7 in (1,670 mm)
Overall Length (W/ 3PT)​
120.9 in (3,071 mm)
Min.Overall Width​
56.3 in (1,430 mm)
Overall Height (W/ ROPS)​
97.3 in (2,471 mm)
Ground Clearance (4WD)​
14.4 in (366 mm)
Min.Turning Radius (W/ Brake)​
7.51 in (2.29 mm)
Weight​
2,989 lbs (1,356 kg)

ENGINE
Engine Model​
Branson A1700N6 IDI
Aspiration​
Natural
Emissions Standards​
Tier 4
Engine Gross Power​
24 hp (18 kW)
PTO Power​
21 hp (15.7 kW)
No. of Cylinders​
3
Displacement​
104.5 cu.in (1,714 cc)
Rated Revolution​
2100 RPM

Not difficult to discern the advantage of the 2515R for road maintenance. The Synchoshuttle transmission will transfer motive power to the wheels about 10% more efficiently than the HST transmission. The additional 883 pounds (+42% over Branson 2610H) and 2" of width will keep this tractor significantly more solidly planted on the ground.

With a bare weight of 2,989 pounds, motivated by 24-horsepower, I would NOT order rear tire ballast. Inflate all four tires with air. Put the rear weight into the Box Blade. There is only so much work 24-horsepower can do.

When considering a tractor purchase bare tractor weight first, tractor horsepower second, rear axle width third, rear wheel/tire ballast fourth.
If I up the engine hp to say 30hp would that make a big enough difference?
 
   / Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h #27  
Less horsepower would call for a smaller blade. This will just make your tasks take longer, but the 25 HP Branson can do the job. If speed is important to you, invest in more HP. Most people don't use 3 ranges if they have them on an HST. More is not necessarily better.
 
   / Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h
  • Thread Starter
#28  
Less horsepower would call for a smaller blade. This will just make your tasks take longer, but the 25 HP Branson can do the job. If speed is important to you, invest in more HP. Most people don't use 3 ranges if they have them on an HST. More is not necessarily better.
If can use a flail mower, would be nice. If 25hp works that's fine. Though I wonder if mid mount mower would be better. Boxblade work & mowing is more important than FEL capacity
 
   / Kioti cx2510 vs tym264 vs Branson 2610 h #29  
If can use a flail mower, would be nice. If 25hp works that's fine. Though I wonder if mid mount mower would be better. Boxblade work & mowing is more important than FEL capacity
I don't prefer a midmount. 3pt flail could be offset to get closer to fences and trees. You can get a 48" flail to operate with as little as 16hp.
 
 
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