Kioti CK30 loader repair and reinforcement

Highbeam · Mar 30, 2006

I don't really care what brand of tractor each of the contributors owns or sells. This isn't about brands. All comments about this loader situation are welcome and encouraged.

Donnyj · Mar 30, 2006

I dont believe trying to stir a reaction from anyone is in the original posters best interest. Agreed? The purpose here is to offer assistance and advice when seen fit. Agree?

KiotiJohn · Mar 30, 2006

I agree totally with Dargo. The brand doesn't matter, the repair looks terrible and should be addressed. Kioti as a company should not be unfairly accused of not doing what they should until they have clearly had the opportunity to do so, which has apparently not been done in this case.

I definitely think you should get with the owner of the dealership and tell him/her that you are not satisfied with this fix, with good reason. It is poor. Have him contact Kioti service, and go from there.

I would suggest that anyone who wishes to just have fun and stir up things in this forum check out the rules of engagement as set out by Muhammad. Just trying to get a reaction is what he has been trying hard to eliminate. We're all here to help one another. That people are proud of their brand is normal. Trying to upset them with unfair statements is just adolescent.
John

HODAK · Mar 30, 2006

the majority of Kioti owners/dealers that responded told him to accept the fix

I did not see this.....the majority? How many dealers?

Having some fun? Yea, that's what I thought. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Good luck, HIGHBEAM. Keep us posted, (even the "other brand" guys).

Steverino · Mar 30, 2006

Dargo, "I'm In Your Corner" /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif We used to have a consumer advocate on TV that used that in his spiel to get you to call him with consumer complaints. He was a no nonsense straight shooting advocate for a fair and reasonable deal for the consumer. And it is more than apparent that that is your position. I could not agree more with your statements throughout this discussion. And a discussion is what this is. It is a discussion to bring forth all the facts relevant to the problem. A discussion to banter around ideas and solutions, and to give Highbeam some brotherly advice and moral support in the resolution of his problem.

Also there are those of us participating in this discussion who by chance have the same rig as Highbeam with a potential for the same problem and therefore have a vested interest in the resolution and the process to that end.

If after all that I have learned here, I was to have the same problem, I would take a copy of the picture of Highbeam’s repair along with me to whoever repaired it, and I would state in no uncertain terms that this would not be acceptable repair for me. I would not ask for a new loader but a new frame for the loader. The bucket cylinders and hoses and other parts could all be reused and I would consider that to be more than fair and equitable. That is my position on the fix.

For those who don’t see the value in this discussion, please don’t ridicule those of us that do. Highbeam has a problem and the majority of want to see him resolve it in a way that is acceptable to him. Highbeam contributes a lot on TBN and deserves to have his problem addressed until he is satisfied that he has received all the input he needs and has reached a resolution that is satisfactory to him.

Not to be rude but for those who find this post banal, you have the option of simply not continuing to read it.

Dargo · Mar 30, 2006

( My basic question being, "Would you be happy if your new tractor looked like this?". I am compelled to give him a chance to make it right.)

Hot dang it! You're doing it to me again. I have to agree completely with your thoughts. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif I mean, heck, what are people here going to think if we keep agreeing?! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously though, I do think you are taking the most logical and reasonable steps you can take in your situation. It's never easy to go to someone and have to tell them, "this is not acceptable" and to try to get them to honestly reply as to whether they would be happy with the "repair" if it were their tractor. Good luck to you. I know it will be an awkward conversation. Hopefully the dealer will appreciate you being courteous enough to address the matter with him first to see if he will do the right thing without him being forced to do so.

MessickFarmEqu · Mar 30, 2006

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I would suggest that anyone who wishes to just have fun and stir up things in this forum check out the rules of engagement as set out by Muhammad. Just trying to get a reaction is what he has been trying hard to eliminate. We're all here to help one another. That people are proud of their brand is normal. Trying to upset them with unfair statements is just adolescent.
John )

Chill out a bit, this whole thread has been really pretty civil, I don't see anyone stiring the pot or taking offence to somthing. This is not like you John.

If Highbeam gets stuck with this thing, than blame can be laid... and it should be frankly. Someone should be darn embarassed about the whole thing to begin with. Highbeam seems remarkably calm and accepting of the whole thing. I'm shocked - I would expect someone to be really irate if I passed along a tractor looking like that.

KiotiJohn · Mar 30, 2006

( Chill out a bit, this whole thread has been really pretty civil, I don't see anyone stiring the pot or taking offence to somthing. )
Neil, you obviously have not read all the posts. Comments about some members being thin-skinned are not welcome, and do not fit the terms of service of this forum. The poster even admitted that he only wanted to get a reaction. I don't need to chill out when I'm not wrong. Thanks. John

turbo36 · Mar 30, 2006

To all those that take offense to my statements should go back and read the responses and show me one person that owns a Kioti that advised him to not accept the bad repair, there is none, it is the truth and if the truth offends you then so be it. Anyone suggesting that Highbeam roll over and accept this repair is wrong, sorry no other way to look at it.
As far as poking fun at someone that is brand loyal it's done all the time in the others forums without this much uproar.

Batche33 · Mar 30, 2006

No one has even come close to saying that he should "accept" this.

The dealer did the welding (shoddy at best) not Kioti.

I do believe his original question was ( Tell me what you think. Function over form? )

Again didn't say he should accept it.

Becky