Just got quoted on a 8560

[MtnViewRanch]

So what about Kubota? I don't know about right now, but as of 2004 they did not participate in the Nebraska tests either. So buyer beware on all those Kubota's also.

Ya just don't know what ya may be getting.

 

[flusher]

IIRC the tractor tests that the U. of Nebraska handles are required by the state of Nebraska if you want to open a tractor dealership in that state. Apparently Mahindra doesn't have any dealers there yet for reasons known only to them.

Nebraska Mahindra Dealers: Mahindra Tractor Dealers in Nebraska

 

[ENG18LT]

If you are not a troll, you are very short on tractor knowledge. You have about nothing right, and I think your post can simply be dismissed.

Well put. He sounds like somebody needs a valium, certainly no "guru".

 

[ozley]

All you've done is convince me (and anyone else on this forum) that you're a Mahindra 'snake oil' salesman.

You and you alone, anyone else sees the troll in you. What a first post start with.

 

[dave9652]

Nebraska tested 22 hp

 

[seaneastok]

TractorGuru..
If you actually read Daves post he DID answer you point for point. Granted he didn't number them for you but perhaps he should have..
1.Parts availability after 10 years
Mahindra has been here in the States since 1994.20 years with all part's still available
2. Resale
He is a dealer and cant keep used unit's on the lot,If he can get/find them. Very rare can you find a used Mahindra with fel in the private market,and when you do they command a premium price.
3. Hp ratings
Dave put's them on his own "3rd" party dyno..
My own points
1. customer service
Great customer service from"GOOD OL BOYS"down in Texas,USA. Yes they might have an accent,but it's not an Indian one.
2. Tractor differences
As far as your observations between tractor y vs x, what were the differences, hst,gear,weight etc. It plays a huge role.
3. Dealers dropping
Not brand specific,our local Massey dealership is no longer here after nearly 50 years.
4. Cheapest price ?
I suggest you do some comparison shopping
5. Not that Dave needs defending,you will not find a more helpful,courteous,knowledgeable , non brand bashing individual on this forum,and you better load both barrels with information before replying with a mis information post..
6.I am in no way brand loyal or specific.I have owned/operated Massey,Ford,Belarus,Cub, Oliver,David Brown..And by far the Mahindra has served me well. just my :2cents:
7. I too find this a strange place for your first post..
Regard's
Sean

 

[dave9652]

Farm is green, but I would buy one of those little guys if I needed it.....As many as they sell, all **** would break loose if they were duds and parts were not to be had... And it wouldn't take long with the cyber telegraph bashers to start slinging rotten tomatoes

 

[cmhyland]

Imported tractors are taxed on rated horsepower... So it is in a companies interest to understate the HP, pay less import duties, and have people say man that machine has a lot of power.... If you Nebraska test you can no longer do this....

Few companies actually sell the tractors they make under their own name in the US.... Kubota and Mahindra are two of the few... John Deere , New Holland and the others import machines with their stickers on them. It's doesn't make them bad machines, but in my opinion it seems like I'd like a machine from a company that makes the product and puts their name on it.... I own a Kubota, and this was part of my decision...

Regards,
Chris

 

[atgreene]

I certainly DO know alot about tractors, since I work on them for a living, and I also understand how people get screwed when their parts are discontinued and therefore, the machine has almost NO value. I advise these customers to stick with the companies that have been around a while and are well known, to avoid these problems. I also tell them that the cheapest machine is not always the cheapest machine. If they ask about New Holland, I tell them good. If they ask about JD, I tell them go for it. If they ask me about Case, absolutely. If they ask me about a "newcomer" to the market or unknown brand, I advise them to think twice, and then tell them some true stories about the cheap chineese crap they sell at Harbor Freight that can't be repaired. "If the machine is a lot cheaper than all thier competitors, Theres' probably a reason". I haven't worked on a Mahindra yet, and that's likely because they haven't been around very long.

I also know about the Nebraska test because I've driven a 34hp brand X tractor, and then a 34hp Y tractor, and wondered why one seemed to have so much more power than the other. My boss, who has been in the business for 40 years, explained to me how some companies 'cheat' on their specs...and it all made sense.

Unlike YOU, Dave, I am just trying to point out some reasons to avoid the lesser known brands, since I deal with these issues on a regular basis. It's up to others to decide if they still want to take a chance on a newcomer. For all I know, Mahindra is losing money and could pull out of the US market next week. Ever heard of a car company called a Daewoo? Yep, that's what they did.

Anyhow, ONCE AGAIN, you have still not responded to my points directly. Namely, will they still be able to get parts in 10 years? How ARE their resale values going to hold up? and WHY don't they use the Nebraska Test for their specs like everyone else? Seriously, you're just making yourself look foolish by attacking me instead of actually responding to the questions I raised about buying a Mahindra!!!!! If you can answer them, DO IT, instead of attacking me

All you've done is convince me (and anyone else on this forum) that you're a Mahindra 'snake oil' salesman.

I own a 4150 Kubota that has a pile of parts that are "no longer available". Try buying front wheels (9.5 x20) or a steering arm. Just tried, no go. Every manufacturer has discontinued parts, your arguement is weak.

Every tractor I've ever used is different, regardless of identical horsepower. I'm no Mahindra fan, but neither am I a fan of fancy brochures and big names like Deere and Kubota. Regardless of paint color these tractors are all more alike than some of us would like to admit.

 

[hacleme]

Not to change the subject but I have wondered what the heck a "troll" is so I used Google, it knows everything.
So if anyone else other than me wondered what it meant here ya go:

An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" or "Message Board Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.

A classic troll is trying to make us believe that he is a genuine skeptic with no hidden agenda. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. Troll is usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it against them.
While sometimes, he may sound like a stupid, uninformed, ignorant poster, do not be deceived! Most trolls are highly intelligent people trying to hide behind a mask of stupidity and/or ignorance! They usually have an agenda.

A Troll is generally a person who is extremely skeptical of the main forum subject.
He is generally interested to make other forum members look stupid. A troll will sometimes use insults to provoke other people to insult him. Then, he will complain to moderators of being insulted and will request that his opponents get banned from further discussion.

 

[Sysop]

Regardless of paint color these tractors are all more alike than some of us would like to admit.

+1! :thumbsup:

 

[Sysop]

Your post is pathetic. Your only rebuttal to all my points was "They are #1 in the world and #3 in the US for <80hp" Ya know what? Wal-Mart is the biggest retailer in the world, but that isn't because of their quality? Is it? Oh, that's right, it's all "cheap crap" made in (ready for it) CHINA!!!!

I hate to tell ya, Indian goods are nowhere near the low quality of Chinese goods. The basis of Mahindra's tractor manufacturing is built on knowledge they gained building International Harvester tractors for foreign markets. The Willys Jeeps we used to win the Pacific front of WW2 were contracted to Mahindra to be built, they did a great job... As far as speaking to their customer service in their country of origin, so they talk funny. I think you'll find the accents of Koreans, Japanese, and Indians all can be difficult to understand. That's why they all have US personnel for such things. As far as I know India has always been an EXCELLENT ally to the US. I see no reason not to do business with them. What models of their product line they do not make, they go to the same manufacturers that JD, Kubota, and many others use as well. Any difference in quality is subjective at best.

 

[jefwyn]

When someone feels it's necessary to call himself tractorguru, well it makes you wonder???

 

[DavesTractor]

I'm thinking that TractorGuru might have been contacted by the moderators. He has not had any activity here since the end of August. This is a well moderated site, and if someone does nothing but stir the pot they tend to go away.

 

[J F]

I think some of this was utilized...

 

[bindian]

I'm thinking that TractorGuru might have been contacted by the moderators. He has not had any activity here since the end of August. This is a well moderated site, and if someone does nothing but stir the pot they tend to go away.

Maybe he's here lurking and can't post. If he is lurking, I can tell him how my John Deere brush hog needed parts and my local John Deere dealer told me the gear box seals and bearings were not available anymore and were made in France when in production. I had to buy a new style gearbox and that would entail a whole new hub style. I walked out and never went back. I greased that gearbox full of gease and used it until I sold it. Yeah, JD's high resale value is because of it's great parts network...................RIGHT.

Also, with todays next day delivery and internet, you don't need to be able to drive to a dealer for parts.
hugs, Brandi

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I have heard of people filling bush hog mower type gear boxes with grease when they old and would not hold liquid oil. Does it tend to go liquid when the box gets really hot?

 

[CowboyRon]

I have heard of people filling bush hog mower type gear boxes with grease when they old and would not hold liquid oil. Does it tend to go liquid when the box gets really hot?

It will eventually leak out just not as fast as gear oil. We have an old post hole digger that when I use it, I just check the grease before I hook it up.

 

[bindian]

I have heard of people filling bush hog mower type gear boxes with grease when they old and would not hold liquid oil. Does it tend to go liquid when the box gets really hot?

If the bearings are good...........and you completely filled it with grease, it should not get hot. I don't remember mine getting hot. But I don't remember touching the gearbox after using it a few hours. The JD salesman said he did that on one gearbox of his bat wing mower also because he couldn't afford to replace it.
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

It will eventually leak out just not as fast as gear oil. We have an old post hole digger that when I use it, I just check the grease before I hook it up.

Ron,
Correct, I forgot to mention to refill it every use or couple of hours.
hugs, Brandi