Jubilee or 8n

[bell103]

I am looking for an older ford and have narrowed it down to a few. I was wondering though which one would be a better choice for me. I myself am no mechanic and the 8n does smoke a little but it also comes with a loader and is $1500. It is further away by around 2 hours. The jubilee is a 1953 and runs good but is listed at $3000. I think I may be able to talk down to $2500 and it is only 6 minutes from my house. Which one do you think would be a better choice?

 

[frank_f15]

does the Jubilee have a loader?

 

[bell103]

No it is just the tractor.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Speaking in general terms, the Jube is quite a bit more tractor. The 8N was a step up from the 9N/2N. Jube's were a BIGGER step up from the 8N.

Now, which 50+ year old used tractor is better? You're there and can see each. Which one is in better shape? Which one will serve your needs better? (Do you need the loader? Is it a GOOD loader?)

All things equal, I'd take the Jubilee.

 

[dawoodwa]

Jubilee, lesser of two evils. 8n's have almost a cult following but I wouldn't desire one in my barn. PTO is stronger, higher lift capacity, stronger tractor with the Juby.

 

[ToadHill]

If you check the 8n loader it probably has single action cylinders. They lift only and the weight of the bucket lowers the unit. The bucket probably has a trip mechanism and it is either engaged or disengaged with no in between power. I have one and it is not as useful as you think it may be. Sooooo, in my opinion I wouldn't allow the loader to be the deciding factor.

 

[naegling62]

In my area of Alabama 8ns are everywhere.

 

[Soundguy]

I am looking for an older ford and have narrowed it down to a few. I was wondering though which one would be a better choice for me. I myself am no mechanic and the 8n does smoke a little but it also comes with a loader and is $1500. It is further away by around 2 hours. The jubilee is a 1953 and runs good but is listed at $3000. I think I may be able to talk down to $2500 and it is only 6 minutes from my house. Which one do you think would be a better choice?

If the n smokes... and it is blue not black.. then you know you are N for engine work.

the NAA has more hp, and a better OHV engine.

The N with a loader likely has a good amount of wear onthe kingpin.

The NAA has live hyds.. the N doesn't.

IMHO

I'd get the naa.

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

, higher lift capacity, .

Same pump characteristics, piston displacement... naa lift and 8n lift are functionally similar in capacity.

not untill you hit the 00 series did you get better pump flow and psi, and larger piston.. etc.

soundguy

 

[JoeinTX]

I'd go with the NAA as well.


Have an 8n and have driven an NAA since I was a kid. The Jubilee is more tractor...more power....better PTO.....a little more robust overall.


The only real advantage that I've noticed the 8n having over the NAA is in fuel use.........I can work noticably longer on the 8n doing the same shredding or discing than I can the NAA. But, that only stands to reason since the NAA has a bigger engine with more HP.


As for the loader on the 8n, as mentioned above, it's not going to be anything like today's modern loaders in terms of strength or versatility. It's slow, won't lift much, and pretty limited overall. The 8n was not designed to carry a loader and I wouldn't consider it a very good one for that job either.

 

[Soundguy]

. It's slow, won't lift much, and pretty limited overall. The 8n was not designed to carry a loader and I wouldn't consider it a very good one for that job either.

Those are all objective terms.

'speed' will be a function of flow.

strength will be a function of PSI and cyl crossectional size, but not flow.

A front stinger pump is easily fit to the N, and is in fact the prefered method of loader powering, vs the built in belly-pump.

A high gpm pump in the teens ont he front will produce a modern loader 'speed' of lift/dump/curl.

if the loader cyl's are of similar size to a modern laoder, and you select a common pump that was built around the ~2500 PSI pressure that many ag applicatrions run, then the laoder lift capability will be similar to a modern one.

All that said.. the kingpin on the front does not like to stand up to constant abuse. It will take it.. but at cost. I know guys that move large round bales ont he front of an 8n with aheavilly ballasted rear, and a full hyd post and subframe style loader..

I personally wouldn't try it on anything smaller than an 00 series.. but I've seen it done plenty of times ( as well as picking up a bale on the rear lift after 3p geometry was changed using a blue-axe ).. etc.

soundguy

 

[wolc123]

In general, I am more fond of the 8n than the Jubilee, but in this case, the condition of the both tractors is obviously the key to your decision. An 8n has a significantly better power/weight ratio than a Jubilee which may be important if you are going to trailer it. It also has a more durable hydraulic system and considerably better fuel economy as someone has already mentioned. The additional power of the Jubilee is insignificant (they are both 2-plow tractors). The N's were also made in far greater numbers and, as a result, has much better parts support. The Ford N is the only tractor model I know where you can get many parts from TSC. I hate to see a loader on an N because it takes the light weight advantage away from the tractor. Because there are so many out there, you could probably dump that loader for decent money on someone who dont know no better. To this day, there is still no tractor I would rather have on my 2-row corn planter than my 1951 Ford 8n. Light weight, good fuel economy, smooth 3 pt hitch, low-profile, and on-off access on either side make it absolutely perfect for this job. The N's were in a class by themselves in many respects, the first modern utility tractor, and the 51-52 8n's were the most refined form. It is a heck of a lot easier to change implements on an N than a Jubilee because it's light weight makes it easier to push by hand. I have worked many hours on both models, and the older I get, the more I like the N in comparison, mostly for this reason.

 

[Soundguy]

An NAA and 8n are very close in weight... I think you have your ratio numbers a little skewed on power/weight ?? they are gonna both be withing a few pounds, per hp.. ie.. 89/93... might mean something on paper.. but in the real world? I think I'd take the extra hp, and the 3xx extra #. Their turn radius and physical dimension is also significantly close.. IE>. if your trailer hauls yer 8n.. it should haul yer naa...

I was gonna say the live hyds on the NAA made hitching implements easier... pushing tractor? just back up better then you don't have to push the tractor none!

soundguy

 

[dgl24087]

Some comparative info for the 8N, NAA, 600-800 series: Golden Jubilee/NAA vs. 600

 

[foggy1111]

My father was a Ford tractor dealer and I can remember being at the county fairs back in these times. The Jubilee was quite an advancement in tractors at this point in time for Ford. The overhead valve engine was huge....and if I remember right live hydraulics on the Jubilee...just cant remember if you could yet get live PTO I would hands-down rather have a nice Jubilee than any n tractor.

They put out a limited number of gold tractors symbolizing the "golden jubilee" back then. I think every dealer got one for the promotion (?). Anyway the guy that bought our gold one wanted his painted red like the others.....now he wishes he would have left it as it came....it would have been quite collectible I would think.

 

[Soundguy]

My father was a Ford tractor dealer and I can remember being at the county fairs back in these times. The Jubilee was quite an advancement in tractors at this point in time for Ford. The overhead valve engine was huge....and if I remember right live hydraulics on the Jubilee...just cant remember if you could yet get live PTO I would hands-down rather have a nice Jubilee than any n tractor.

They put out a limited number of gold tractors symbolizing the "golden jubilee" back then. I think every dealer got one for the promotion (?). Anyway the guy that bought our gold one wanted his painted red like the others.....now he wishes he would have left it as it came....it would have been quite collectible I would think.

There was a live pto kit available by , I believe' sherman... A small pump ran off the tach drive and this powered a hyd clutchpack on the pinion.. so you had live pto as long as you kept your foot off the clutch..if you hit the foot clutch to shift.. you lost pto.

8n had a similar arangement available.. but it was a manual lever activated pinion clutch.

The golden jubilee was the aniversery year for ford commemorating 50 ys.

I've never seen an oem gold painted NAA.. I do know ford put out gold demonstraitors in the 01 series though.

soundguy