Jinma 184

[msuttner]

I am thinking of purchasing Jinma 184 and have been told that the Jinma is rated at 18 HP at the PTO but that it is more like 22Hp because the chinese under rate them. I have a 5ft rotary cutter, 5ft tiller and a 5 1/2 ft box blade. Will this tractor handle these implements? Also I own a 18 hp MTD garden tractor and would never own another. This machine is always breaking down what a piece of %##!!!
Will the Jinma 184 hold up better than the MTD? Any thoughts out there?
Thanks for your feedback
Michael

 

[pruntyc]

I'm not sure about the tiller, but the box blade and the rotary cutter are a little large for that size tractor, about 21 hp. I would say a minimum of 25, better 30 hp, would be better. You would probably be lugging the tractor. Of course I guess if you geared down enough, you could use it.

 

[SHIFTY]

You can run a 5 ft cutter on a 204 for light field mowing,Im sure the same goes with the 184,I believe the statement about the under rating.If you were mowing brush You would be better off with a 254 or 284,decent little tractor,good luck

 

[trentay]

It will run all of your implements in the size you mentioned, although I would not go any bigger than that on the tiller or mower, 5' will cover the tires just right. I just sold my 28 hp Ford Diesel 4x4 tractor, and the JM184 ran circles around it with the same implements, plus the JM has power steering. Don't let the the HP numbers bother you, I don't know for sure how much HP this tractor actually has, but I am convinced that is more then it says on the hood. If you are looking at the 2 cyl engine model, the torque values are very good and the weight of the tractor for its class is excellent, two factors that I feel are much more important than rated HP.

 

[msuttner]

/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gifWell I got the Jinma 184. I had a Yanmar 2210BD prior to geting the Jinma. I had purchased the Yanmar from Buck at EFC equipment. I liked the Yanmar but had some problems with it. Buck took the Yanmar back and gave me what I paid for it towards the purchase of the new Jinma 184. If you are looking for a tractor I Highly recommend you talk to Buck at EFC.
Thank you again Buck
Michael

 

[johnk]

Let us know how you like the 184. I have a 224 and it is really a workhorse. Keep us posted.

John K

 

[DIYGuy]

I Have a 224 and have done more with it than I possibly imagined. I bought mine as an overgrown lawn tractor and it is truely a powerful machine.

The 184 two-cyl reportedly has more torque that the 22hp three-cyl.

18hp Diesel is an apples and oranges comparison to 18hp gas. For example, I have 12 hp gas implement that has an operating deck of 27". The attachment to the tractor will have an operating deck of 60" and will not be stressed by it.

FWIW,

DIYGuy

 

[johnk]

I have the 224 with the 2 cylinder. When I use the 9 inch auger I just let her idle at 900 rpm's and it has dug me almost 100 holes and never bogged the tractor at that low an RPM. It did snap a lot of shear bolts though.

 

[msuttner]

Will I have had a chance to test out the Jinma 184. What a tractor! it has more power than the Yanmar 2210BD that I had.
I did some cuting with the 5ft rotary cutter (no problem). I also put the 5 1/2 ft box blade on, and worked on the riding arena that I am making for my wife. The 184 pulled that box blade with no problem, and I want you to know I moved some dirt. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
What a great tractor for the price.
The Yanmar was 22hp at the PTO and 25 at the drive train and the Jinma is 18 at the PTO or so they say. The Jinma would work circles around the Yanmar 2210BD.

 

[johnk]

Another good thing is the weight of the tractor. If you don't have the weight to put downpressure to the wheels it's not going to get a whole lot of traction pulling attachments etc. Your Yanmar probably weighed half of what the 184 weighs...

John K

 

[trentay]

Michael and John,

This is one of those positive occassions when it is nice to say I told ya so!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

That weight and torque thing really makes a difference. Wish I knew what the real HP of this tractor is at least in terms that we could put some useful value in. What I do know is that the 2 cyl produces very good torque and the the weight of the machine is easily determined at the local scale, thus its ability as a tractor when doing work. I sure wish I could get more people to understand this, but everyone is so darned concerned about the HP rating that it overshadows all other factors of usefulness.

Michael, glad you are having fun with the machine, it really is a sleeper in the tractor market isn't it?

 

[KiotiJohn]

I know this thread is rather dated, however, I just read it, and have a suggestion that you find a speed shop or similar shop that has a dynamometer to measure the HP of your Jinmas. It really is a simple thing to do, as is the weighing at the local scale. I'm not sure, but I think most fairly large cities have at least one engine/speedometer shop with a dynamometer. I hope someone will do this and post the results. I happen to have bought a new Kioti CK20HST, but am still considering picking up a Jinma for other work. Thanks, John

 

[greg_g]

I'd say you were told wrong. The TY290 engine is rated at 13.24 kw, which computes to 18 engine horsepower. I'd estimate that puts less than 15 hp at the PTO. Add that to a working weight of 2200 pounds, and a category 0 hitch - I don't think you'll find it suitable for your current implements.

It's one of the reasons I'm getting rid of my JM254; the 104 to 1 weight to horsepower ratio. I'm staying Chinese for the cost advantage - but like Tim Taylor, I need more POWER. Looking at a 40 horse KAMA this weekend.

The frustration comes from trying to work 30 acres of steep hillside pasture and woods. Too much of that 25 Jinma horsepower is chewed up just dragging it's own 2600+ pounds around, much less spinning a 500 pound mower or dragging a 400 pound spike tooth harrow - uphill. The power to weight ratio is further aggravated by an extra wide gear ratio spacing in a (non-synchro) 3 speed transmission. I don't consider it suitable for working hilly ground, with any speed and efficiency that is.

By comparison, my Yanmar has a 67 to 1 weight to horsepower ration and a much closer gear ratio pattern in a 4 speed (non-synchro) transmission. Unfortuately it's a 2wd turf tire machine, and has pretty much been relegated to fair weather work.

Don't get me wrong. These Jinmas are definitely workhorses, but you've got to buy the right tool for the job. I didn't pick the right one. So if you've got flat ground, and are willing to buy smaller implements.....

//greg//