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unclebilly
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I got the 12 speed tranny with the reverser.
Buying Advice JD 5075E vs Kubota 7060 both with cabs
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You did good, real good. As far as I know you are the first here with the 12 speed in the 7060. You'll love it.
terryknight
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kubota sounds like it is the way to go. enjoy it
the 3rd function on the loader control is availableas an option on the 5083 (the 4 cylinder) and up
the 3rd function on the loader control is availableas an option on the 5083 (the 4 cylinder) and up
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Being able to do multiple functions or not is controlled first by the method of plumbing the hydraulics. With a true 3rd function setup all three functions receive pressure or flow at the same time if activated. Action is only limited by the tractor's ability to provide gpm flow. JJ can correct me if I misquoted that.
As for my tractor, my FEL will curl and lift at the same time with little limitation of speed. When you add the 3rd function things slow down but still function. So if I'm picking up a Grapple full of loose brush for example, once in position, I push the button to close the Grapple and hold it, at the same time I curl the Grapple and lift the boom. All three functions are in operation and in one smooth move, without moving my hand from the joystick, I have a Grapple loaded with brush.
So you don't have to spring for the Cat 330, you just need the proper plumbing supported by adequate hydraulic flow.
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Whether the push buttons on a joystick allow more than one function or not depends on how they are plumbed.
For example, if you purchase a Kubota 3rd function you get the ability to use two functions because it is designed using a solenoid operated hydraulic valve operating on it's own circuit. So when a button is depressed hydraulic flow is divided between that function and whatever else you have activated. So both have motion, the speed is then limited by the tractor's gpm. If one of the 3rd function buttons is not pushed all flow goes to other functions and the 3rd function movement stops. With this type of setup you will have two buttons added to the joystick handle. Each selects a different direction for flow in the 3rd function and other functions can still be performed.
For example, if you purchase a NH tractor with their 3rd function you get the ability you are talking about as in only one function at a time. If the button is depressed a diverter valve stops flow to the curl function of the FEL and sends it all to the 3rd function. Release the button and flow to the 3rd function stops and all flow goes to the curl function. Thus, only one thing happens at a time. With this type of setup you will only have one button on the joystick and only one function, curl or 3rd, happens at any given time.
When I was shopping that's one of the biggest reasons I did not buy a NH. For add-on homemade kits I'm okay with a diverter valve. But for a factory option that's just offensive to me. To be blunt, it's cheap on their part and limits use VERY much. But most buyers won't know the difference until they've used it......
If you have diverter type 3rd function on the joystick you are only one small step from having 3rd function using the rear remote. You just don't have to move your hand to the rear remote control lever, you can do it on the joystick.
I use my 3rd function a LOT, 90% of my FEL use is with a 3rd function attachment. I have true 3rd function and it's very, very common to be doing multiple functions with the joystick.
My Brother's L3240 gets it's 3rd function from his one rear remote. His setup just frustrates me and I only use his tractor if forced to for 3rd function tasks.
When buying a new tractor with 3rd function I suggest asking detailed questions concerning it's design. If you can't confirm the style the tractor has with the salesman, then go talk to the mechanics at the shop.
If you are content to run hoses from the rear remote or are not concerned about true 3rd function abilities then maybe you should rethink spending the money anyway. But if you intend to use it, then get the most user friendly and effective system, regardless of cost. :thumbsup:
vtsnowedin
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You have circled all the way back to the Cat 330 :laughing:
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unclebilly
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This is going to cost me about $800 to add. I am co sidering it to angle a blade. Doing this with a rear remote would be fine too.
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Whether the push buttons on a joystick allow more than one function or not depends on how they are plumbed.
For example, if you purchase a Kubota 3rd function you get the ability to use two functions because it is designed using a solenoid operated hydraulic valve operating on it's own circuit. So when a button is depressed hydraulic flow is divided between that function and whatever else you have activated. So both have motion, the speed is then limited by the tractor's gpm. If one of the 3rd function buttons is not pushed all flow goes to other functions and the 3rd function movement stops. With this type of setup you will have two buttons added to the joystick handle. Each selects a different direction for flow in the 3rd function and other functions can still be performed.
For example, if you purchase a NH tractor with their 3rd function you get the ability you are talking about as in only one function at a time. If the button is depressed a diverter valve stops flow to the curl function of the FEL and sends it all to the 3rd function. Release the button and flow to the 3rd function stops and all flow goes to the curl function. Thus, only one thing happens at a time. With this type of setup you will only have one button on the joystick and only one function, curl or 3rd, happens at any given time.
When I was shopping that's one of the biggest reasons I did not buy a NH. For add-on homemade kits I'm okay with a diverter valve. But for a factory option that's just offensive to me. To be blunt, it's cheap on their part and limits use VERY much. But most buyers won't know the difference until they've used it......
If you have diverter type 3rd function on the joystick you are only one small step from having 3rd function using the rear remote. You just don't have to move your hand to the rear remote control lever, you can do it on the joystick.
I use my 3rd function a LOT, 90% of my FEL use is with a 3rd function attachment. I have true 3rd function and it's very, very common to be doing multiple functions with the joystick.
My Brother's L3240 gets it's 3rd function from his one rear remote. His setup just frustrates me and I only use his tractor if forced to for 3rd function tasks.
When buying a new tractor with 3rd function I suggest asking detailed questions concerning it's design. If you can't confirm the style the tractor has with the salesman, then go talk to the mechanics at the shop.
If you are content to run hoses from the rear remote or are not concerned about true 3rd function abilities then maybe you should rethink spending the money anyway. But if you intend to use it, then get the most user friendly and effective system, regardless of cost. :thumbsup:
Richard, Thanks for that detailed explanation. I didn't realize the offerings varied in operation that much. That really refines the questions to ask and things to look for, as you said. I like the sounds of the Kubota factory third function operation. I need to step-up my new tractor strategy with the wife. :laughing:
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Here is the new machine... I finally picked it up today and broke it in on the way home. I cleared some snow with it on the way home at a friends place. This is a real pleasure to run. I have no regrets on not going green.
