Buying Advice JD 5075E vs Kubota 7060 both with cabs

[dave1949]

It seems like there are two approaches to FEL 3rd function control. One is a solenoid switch integrated with the FEL joystick. The other is running lines from rear remotes using one of the built-in, or an add-on, levers to control remotes. Is this correct?

I am wondering which is more user friendly, or if there is much of a difference when using a grapple? The joystick type seems like it would be an easier one-hand operation. The other would be two hands, or moving one hand from joystick to lever as needed.

 

[bigbull338]

my 7040SU has 2 sets of rear remotes.i got lucky that i didnt have to pay an extra $750 for the 2nd set of remotes.

 

[ovrszd]

It seems like there are two approaches to FEL 3rd function control. One is a solenoid switch integrated with the FEL joystick. The other is running lines from rear remotes using one of the built-in, or an add-on, levers to control remotes. Is this correct?

I am wondering which is more user friendly, or if there is much of a difference when using a grapple? The joystick type seems like it would be an easier one-hand operation. The other would be two hands, or moving one hand from joystick to lever as needed.

True 3rd function using an electric over hydraulic valve with the push buttons on the joystick is the most user friendly. I can grip with my Grapple, lift the Grapple and roll the Grapple all at once with one hand.

If buying a new tractor definitely get 3rd function and get at least 2 rear remotes, 3 if you can. You CANNOT have too many hydraulic functions on a utility tractor.

When I have my Grapple on and my hydraulic scarifier box blade with TnT on the rear, I use all three remotes and 3 functions on the joystick.

Also load the rear tires.

Luxuries are radial tires and cast iron centers if affordable.

Another option that 7040/7060 owners seem to love is adding the larger tires from the 8540/8560 tractors.

 

[dave1949]

True 3rd function using an electric over hydraulic valve with the push buttons on the joystick is the most user friendly. I can grip with my Grapple, lift the Grapple and roll the Grapple all at once with one hand.

If buying a new tractor definitely get 3rd function and get at least 2 rear remotes, 3 if you can. You CANNOT have too many hydraulic functions on a utility tractor.

When I have my Grapple on and my hydraulic scarifier box blade with TnT on the rear, I use all three remotes and 3 functions on the joystick.

Also load the rear tires.

Luxuries are radial tires and cast iron centers if affordable.

Another option that 7040/7060 owners seem to love is adding the larger tires from the 8540/8560 tractors.

Thanks, that's the impression I had on 3rd function. I could picture a stump or whatever and wanting to raise/lower, curl/dump the grapple and at the right position, close/open the top clamp. Being able to do that one-handed sounds like a good thing.

A dealer had a 5055e at the fair this summer. I asked him about the integrated joystick, he said he didn't think it was available on the 50xxe's. I didn't follow up to see if he was correct or not.

 

[vtsnowedin]

Thanks, that's the impression I had on 3rd function. I could picture a stump or whatever and wanting to raise/lower, curl/dump the grapple and at the right position, close/open the top clamp. Being able to do that one-handed sounds like a good thing.

A dealer had a 5055e at the fair this summer. I asked him about the integrated joystick, he said he didn't think it was available on the 50xxe's. I didn't follow up to see if he was correct or not.

I believe that is correct or at least it was in 2012. My third function for the loader comes off one of the two rear remotes and is controlled by one of the levers to the right of the operators seat. So you can only do one thing at a time but when you look at it you can't curl the bucket while raising the loader arms so having this function on the joy stick would still be a one function at a time deal. If you need crowd and curl with the thumb all at the same time get a Cat 330.

 

[dave1949]

I believe that is correct or at least it was in 2012. My third function for the loader comes off one of the two rear remotes and is controlled by one of the levers to the right of the operators seat. So you can only do one thing at a time but when you look at it you can't curl the bucket while raising the loader arms so having this function on the joy stick would still be a one function at a time deal. If you need crowd and curl with the thumb all at the same time get a Cat 330.

I neeeed it. :laughing: CAT 330 isn't happening.

I understand what you are saying, the switch still only allows one function at a time: normal FEL motions or grapple clamp.

How do you like your seat-side lever? I'm sure either works fine as far as getting the job done. I guess you could do all at the same time if you had a hand on the joystick and a hand on the side lever?

I'm just trying to assign a pros/cons weight as to how useful this is when comparing the various offerings.

 

[unclebilly]

The 7060 is loaded. It has the cold cab option with the 100a alternator, rear defrost and wiper. It has the better radio with CD. it also comes with rear weights and ballasted tires. I added one rear remote so I have 2 total. I considered adding the 3rd remote for the FEL but held off - I can always add this later as needed or use one of my rears as needed. I also got a bale spike and 82" bucket.

My buddies are already teasing me about not going green but shut up when I asked, "what's better - a orange tractor made in Japan or a green tractor made in India?"

 

[DT86]

Sounds great, but we must have pictures!

I may have missed it but which transmission did you get?

I held off on installing third function hydraulics as well because it took about a month for my grapple to be built and delivered. I did however go ahead and include both in the financing.

 

[vtsnowedin]

I neeeed it. :laughing: CAT 330 isn't happening.

I understand what you are saying, the switch still only allows one function at a time: normal FEL motions or grapple clamp.

How do you like your seat-side lever? I'm sure either works fine as far as getting the job done. I guess you could do all at the same time if you had a hand on the joystick and a hand on the side lever?

I'm just trying to assign a pros/cons weight as to how useful this is when comparing the various offerings.

So far I have only used mine for the power angle on the front mounted snow plow. No need for speed or finesse there so I have no complaints. Green made in India is far better then Orange made in Japan or Korea.

 

[art]

When running lines from the rear remote to operate the grapple from time to time there are issues with hoses that are dangling over the axle or not clamped right so they get caught and broken. For those tractors that offer the third function get it!