Is This Bad for FEL?

/ Is This Bad for FEL? #1  

strez

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Location
Southern Tier, NY
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New Holland TC30 HST 4WD
I just took delivery of a new CUT (see sig below). One of my first tasks was to dig out a ditch which runs along the border of my property to help divert some ground water.

When I started digging in the muck, I managed to get stuck. The way I got out was by dumping the bucket, sticking it in the ground, pushing down (as gently as possible) on the FEL, and scooping the bucket. This action helped in two ways, it transferrred more weight to the rear wheels (I was backing up going uphill) and the obvious 'push' it gave me to get going.

I'm not planing on making a habit out of this, but I was wondering if this is something that should be avoided at all costs, avoid if at all possible, or it's OK to do.

-Jeff
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #2  
I don't see a problem with it. I have done it with my BX 22 plenty of times. I've never been stuck with my Kioti 3054 and never hope too. It seems too heavy to try to get unstuck /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #3  
No, it's not bad for your FEL.
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #4  
nope , won't hurt it a bit. thats why we buy tractors with that capability. your fel won't deliver more pressure or forces than what your machine can handel. the only bad part is u had to admit u got it stuck /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif, great part is u got it unstuck without any help /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #5  
While I was moving the snow (after our blizzard this year), I had to use the FEL to get me out several times (6-8 times, I reckon). No chains here, unfortunately.

Anyway, as you've read with the other TBNer's, using your FEL to push your tractor out of a stuck spot is a pretty common occurance.
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #6  
<font color="blue"> The way I got out was by dumping the bucket, sticking it in the ground, pushing down (as gently as possible) on the FEL, and scooping the bucket.

I was wondering if this is something that should be avoided at all costs </font>

Heck no! It's a right of passage! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #7  
With the FEL on my tractor you have to pick up the front end in order to remove it. I also lift it off the ground when using the backhoe. 'Course, I've never gotten my tractor stuck /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif (uh, well, that might me a bit of an exageration /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif).
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #8  
Just adding my voice to the chorus with this post. I've done that very thing a number of times without any harm at all. I even managed to get hung up on my frame thanks to a couple of poorly spaced ruts. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif I had to use both my FEL and my backhoe to lift myself out of that one. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

That is something I would neither recommend nor relish doing a second time. To say the least, the stability wasn't all it could have been. The 'pucker factor' increase geometrically when I had to lift the tractor completely up in the air and simultaneously move the FEL bucket to scoop while moving the backhoe bucket to dump. I landed with a thud and left my backhoe where it was and used my FEL to help me back the rest of the way out.

The bottome line is that even with all of that abuse, both my FEL and BH operate perfectly. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #9  
strez,

Well....assuming you had it in AWD and the rear differential was locked, what you just did is called Four wheel drive (well...three wheels and a loader).

That's one of the plusses of having a loader on your tractor. Can't see where it would hurt.

~Rick
 
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i had a guy digging a new septic system for me,he had a big deep wide trench dug and decided he wanted to work from the orher side, so he just used the fel and BH to skip over the trench, was a mazing to watch. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif would i try it? ont till i pratciced on a 6" trench /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Like everyone has said themselves, I have also done that trick. I've gotten stuck a lot during the last winter and once, I was stuck in a way that the front tires wouldn't move when I was using the hoe to pull myself out because there was this large hump, so I did that trick and got out just fine! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Blake
WA
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( i had a guy digging a new septic system for me,he had a big deep wide trench dug and decided he wanted to work from the orher side, so he just used the fel and BH to skip over the trench, was a mazing to watch. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif would i try it? ont till i pratciced on a 6" trench /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>

Small potatoes. SOmeone got those pics of the guy mounting a RAILROAD CAR with his FEL and BH? THAT was amazing! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Thanks guys, I would not have thought to do this. Another tool in the bag of tricks. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #14  
HOW ABOUT STUCK IN NEW GROUND ON A DITCH, FEL OF NO PRODUCTIVE ASSISTANCE. I USED MY DODGE DEISEL TO PULL THE TRACTOR(970- 97 MODEL) /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #15  
The bucket roll is a standard to help get unstuck. Or as a friend puts it. I"m not stuck I just can't move. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Here is the link to the backhoe being loaded into the railcar.
<font color="blue">Dancing backhoe</font>

It's the navy safety page. Some of the pictures there really make you wonder what people were thinking when doing some of these stunts.
Gordon
 
/ Is This Bad for FEL? #16  
If you can get out under your own tractor power YOU AIN'T STUCK!!! If you have to get pulled out by ANOTHER machine, THEN you's stuck. Heck in winter when plowing down a steep grade where I pile the snow at the bottom I regularly have to use the bucket to get out and that's in 4wd, ags, AND chains on the rear!!!!!!
 
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Jeff--

Could be that's the first time the words "gentle" and "FEL" have been used in the same sentence on this board!! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I have a 33D with a 7308 and use it to push/pull until the wheels spin, lift until the rears lighten up, and (about every time I use it) drop the bucket until the front end lifts. I routinely lift the front end to andd/subtract the belly mower. Not to say you can't hurt the machines, but they are built pretty tough. The main thing I try to avoid is a push or pull on one end of the bucket, since it always seemed that might torque or twist things a bit. In general, though, you'll find that these machines are pretty much as tough as their big brothers. Be careful but have fun!!
 

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