is this a tooth bar?

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redcreek

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I bought my LK 3054 used with a front end loader. THe loader bucket has what looks like a tooth bar welded on it. It has 7 square holes evenly spaced across the front where teeth would go. Does this sound like a tooth bar and where can I buy teeth for it? Do the teeth bolt on?

THanks for your help.
 
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They sound like holes for mounting a cutting edge. Bolt-on teeth usually have two holes to mount them.

Any chance you can post a picture?
 
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Sounds like someone has welded a Bolt On Cutting Edge (BOCE) to your bucket. Does the bucket have holes that line up with the cutting edge holes? Does the bucket have two rows of holes? Unless the edge has shanks for teeth its not a tooth bar. As Kenny said '' pics would help answer your questions.''
 
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Sounds like someone has welded a Bolt On Cutting Edge (BOCE) to your bucket. '

Actually, you can get buckets with the weld on edge having been pre-punched for a bolt on edge. I welded on one like that to a bucket recently.

Also, bolt on tooth shanks come as one bolt or two. Depends on the shank
 
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Took pictures today but can't figure out how to attach them. What are the square holes for? THere is writing on the blade, says J.P. Adams Indianapolis, IN. I am wanting to purchase a tooth bar, will it mount on top of this?
 
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Took pictures today but can't figure out how to attach them. What are the square holes for? THere is writing on the blade, says J.P. Adams Indianapolis, IN. I am wanting to purchase a tooth bar, will it mount on top of this?



Square holes would be for carriage bolts, probably 3/8" (just a guess) and as previously mentioned might be for bolt-on teeth or again bolt-on edge.

One 'give-away' would be are the holes only in the bar or all the way through the bucket bottom as well?
If in bar only, then someone simply welded on a replacement blade and if all the way then it would be for bolt on teeth or teeth holders.

Either way you should be still able to add on a tooth bar because as mentioned tooth bars simply use 2 bolts to attach 'ears' to the sides of the bucket.


Also square holes indicate a factory made bar as few artisans are equipped to punch square holes, they'd generally simply drill holes.

Generally to order a tooth bar you need to provide the total thickness of your bucket edge as well as the accurate inside dimension of the width.

Good luck!
 
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something like this?

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not what you normally think of as a tooth bar... but should work just the same.
 
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The picture below shows the way a normal cutter bar bolts to a bucket. The inset shows the double-edged bar bolted to the bottom of the bucket. As you can see, there are plow bolts mounted from the bottom up into the bucket. The plow bolts have a square shank below the head just like carriage bolts. It is possible that someone used a bar like this and just welded it inside the bucket instead of bolting it onto the bottom. It's also very possible that your configuration does not use the same attachment. There are many ways to "skin this cat."
 

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Also the square holes go all the way through the bar. It looks like the bar ws welded on the bucket.
 
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Considering that the holes are not in the center of the bar, but rather along the front, they sure look like they were designed to bolt on teeth. Did you buy this tractor from a dealer? If so, maybe they know what bolts to these holes. All the teeth I've ever seen are pinned to a welded-on shank.

Edit: On second thought, those holes may be for a wear-edge like snow plows use to keep from tearing up the pavement.
 
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Well, like Jim said there are many ways to skin this cat.
I personally wouldn't hesitate to bolt on shanks to that and use it for a toothbar. What the hey?
 
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Where do I find bolt on teeth?
 
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I'm guessing that that piece came off of some other type of bucket or scraper. I've found a few 'blades' like that on my property. Don't know what they came off of. Might have been an old FEL bucket.:D
 
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Your cutting edge looks like a bolt on box blade that was welded to your bucket. I just bolted a similar one to my bucket edge that was wearing out. Mine is a double sided blade that uses 5/8" carriage bolts. I doubt you'll find bolt on teeth that will line up with the square holes. I'm sure you could order a tooth bar but since the bucket edge has been modified you'll have to modify how it mounts to the bucket sides. Or if you want them permanent you could buy weld on teeth.

I made my own tooth bar a couple years ago but I remove it for winter snow removal. Next spring I'll have to modify the bar I made to fit my bucket with this new cutting edge.
 

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Where do I find bolt on teeth?

That's a tough question. The answer might be that you have to make them. I did a Google search for "bolt-on bucket teeth" and found lots of teeth that pin into a weld-on shank, but only a couple that bolt onto a lip. They were actually designed for a backhoe bucket.
 
 

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