Is There A Missing Thread?

[SnowRidge]

ToolcatWonka5610's post about buying a 1430 and trailer package triggered a memory of a certain thread. Now I can't find it.

It was about buying a machine with a trailer package for commercial use that the OP claimed was not road legal. IIRC, he said it was over grossed when everything was loaded onto it. I thought I would look the thread up and see if it was something that should be referred to ToolcatWonka5610. Despite a dozen searches of the PT forum with various combos of "trailer" and other appropriate terms, I can't find it.

I don't remember which machine was involved, just that it was not anything green.

Anyone else remember the thread?

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

Isn't the 1430 Trailer Package only 7,000lbs gross? I'm going try and find that. Thanks for posting that.

 

[SnowRidge]

Personally, I would never consider buying a single purpose trailer like that. It is too limiting. A general purpose utility trailer lets you haul whatever you want to haul, not what PT thinks you should haul.

 

[MossRoad]

ToolcatWonka5610's post about buying a 1430 and trailer package triggered a memory of a certain thread. Now I can't find it.

It was about buying a machine with a trailer package for commercial use that the OP claimed was not road legal. IIRC, he said it was over grossed when everything was loaded onto it. I thought I would look the thread up and see if it was something that should be referred to ToolcatWonka5610. Despite a dozen searches of the PT forum with various combos of "trailer" and other appropriate terms, I can't find it.

I don't remember which machine was involved, just that it was not anything green.

Anyone else remember the thread?

Hmmm... I do not recall any posts on TBN regarding an over grossed PT trailer package.

 

[SnowRidge]

Hmmm... I do not recall any posts on TBN regarding an over grossed PT trailer package.

Maybe I saw it somewhere else, but I'm almost certain it was here. IIRC, the over grossed bit was only part of the thread. I think the buyer was a commercial user who was really upset about his purchase and how he was treated, coming down very hard on Power Trac.

I think the thread was removed. Do M. and company remove threads they believe to be libelous?

 

[Bird]

Libelous threads, or manufacturer/dealer bashing, might result in a thread being removed, but I don't remember any such thread on TBN in the past.

 

[SnowRidge]

Well, durn it, now it's really bugging me. I don't know where else I could have seen it. There just isn't much of a Power Trac discussion anywhere else.

 

[Bob999]

I think I recall a remark in a thread to the effect that a fully loaded PT trailer was over gross or that the purchaser wanted to add an attachment but that would put the trailer over gross.

 

[MossRoad]

I searched and found nothing related to Power Trac. And, with my super duper moderator abilities, I found nothing that was removed, either. Sorry.

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

If the trailer was over grossed why is PT still selling them?

 

[MossRoad]

If the trailer was over grossed why is PT still selling them?

We do not know if the trailer was over grossed. You would have to call Power Trac to get the weight of the trailer, the capacity of the trailer, the weight of the tractor and any implements, etc...

One thing about owning a Power Trac you should know is that it is a do-it-yourself operation from the get-go. You are responsible for everything and that includes researching it well before you decide to buy it.

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

We do not know if the trailer was over grossed. You would have to call Power Trac to get the weight of the trailer, the capacity of the trailer, the weight of the tractor and any implements, etc...

One thing about owning a Power Trac you should know is that it is a do-it-yourself operation from the get-go. You are responsible for everything and that includes researching it well before you decide to buy it.

I believe it's grossed at 7,000 for the T8 and T12 Class, 10,000 for the T18 Class, and 14,000 for the T24 class.

 

[SnowRidge]

I found it!

It wasn't a thread after all, just a single post in the Bad Power Trac Experience Thread.

I knew I'd seen something here about an over grossed Power Trac trailer. I don't have "mad cow" after all.

 

[MossRoad]

I'd forgotten about that one.

Here's a direct link.

It didn't have the word "gross" in it. That's why my search failed.

 

[SpringHollow]

7000 lb axles means around 8000 lb total load and trailer with tongue weight. Getting close. Add chains, binders, etc.......

Ken

 

[MossRoad]

I bought an 18' car hauler trailer. It is rated for 7000#. It weighs 1500#, so I have a useful capacity of 5500#. My PT425 weighs about 1500#, so that leaves me 4000# for implements!

The trailer package from PT is neat and a nice setup. But, as mentioned, it is pretty much dedicated to the PT and its implements. How many times are you going to need every implement at a job site? I don't know how that would work for a business? There is a landscaper here that has three PTs. Two in the 400 series and I believe the other is a 1430. They have longer, landscape trailers, with a box on the front that looks to be the width of the trailer and about 6' deep with walk in doors that open to the sides. They keep their hand tools in the boxes and put the PT, the implements they need for the day and plants, shrubs, mulch, whatever on the rear of the trailer. That seems more practical to me.

 

[SnowRidge]

I have a 20 foot 10K modified landscape trailer that I had specially built. It's modified to load a 5,000 lb CUT via the heavily reinforced mesh ramp. The builders' engineer told me the ramp could load as much as 10,000 lbs without damage, clearly more than the trailer itself is designed to handle.

While I have some issues with the trailer and the company who built it, the concept has worked well. I can haul my Power Trac or my CUT, plus the trailer can handle miscellaneous material much better than a standard equipment trailer. The sides and tail gate keep everything on board. I can even haul loose material such as mulch with boards bolted to the front and side rails.

I'm sure my trailer cost a lot less than a Power Trac built trailer, which would be far less versatile. The only situation I can think of offhand in which the Power Trac trailer might be a good idea would be a company whose business had it going into remote areas. In that case, it probably would be handy to have a purpose built trailer to haul the machine and all its implement to the job site.

 

[KentT]

II'm sure my trailer cost a lot less than a Power Trac built trailer, which would be far less versatile. The only situation I can think of offhand in which the Power Trac trailer might be a good idea would be a company whose business had it going into remote areas. In that case, it probably would be handy to have a purpose built trailer to haul the machine and all its implement to the job site.

The PT trailer is built so that you can attach and detach the implements from the ground -- just drive up to the trailer and swap over the implement.

I, too, use a utility trailer but it isn't designed to do that, and I have to unload all my implements and spread them out so that I then can drive up to them to attach them. It requires both more time and more room to maneuver...