Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

[EscapedSuburbia]

EVs currently make up about 0.5% of electrical usage while data centers make up 1-2% and is growing rapidly. I'm a lot more concerned about data centers than EVs.

 

[NoTrespassing]

I want to see crash test results for the vehicle below:

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Tesla, Elon Musk's electric car company, has always been on the innovative edge of car technology. The Cybertruck pushed that boundary, offering the power and utility of a truck in an EV form. Despite being an exciting idea, it hasn't had the best reception, with multiple recalls and a negative overall public perception which has made the Cybertruck plummet in value. Still, it can't be argued that it introduced something different to the automobile world. Now, though, there's a new EV truck entering the ring.

TELO specializes in electric trucks, with its first model going by the name TELO MT1. It boasts an impressive range, great capability, and a practical size for urban environments. It also has a reasonable price at $41,520, compared to the Cybertruck's cost of $72,235.

What makes TELO stand out is that it has the backing of Marc Tarpenning. Tarpenning is the original co-founder of Tesla, though he is now a Venture Partner at Spero Ventures. Spero Ventures' focus is on supporting companies that are innovating products and services for a sustainable and better future for the planet, and one such company is, of course, TELO. That makes TELO's new EV truck an exciting prospect.

 

[tradosaurus]

The Tesla store in Tyler has a parking lot full of Cybertrucks. Only 2 models show on the Tesla website, the All-Wheel Drive and Cyberbeast. I guess $79,990 is under $80,000. But add in destination and order fees and it is above $80,000.

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I was at the Tyler store in early September getting an alignment for my Y. They told me that all the Cybertrucks except for one were already purchased and waiting for pickup.
Destination and order fees as well as FSD do not count in the price qualification for the now ended tax incentive.

 

[tradosaurus]

They should just stop building surplus and build only ordered vehicles.
But, I know that production lines don't work well like that.
Musk did that sickening little dance when introducing it that was childlike.
It fails being Practical for a work vehicle, period.
It's not a truck!
He could probably sell a small electric truck that wasn't obscene looking and is dependable.
It's a floundering failure

Define "work vehicle".
I think it's perfect for a work truck given that most only travel less than 100 miles per day. Unless your job sites are 100's of mile apart.

 

[NoTrespassing]

I was at the Tyler store in early September getting an alignment for my Y. They told me that all the Cybertrucks except for one were already purchased and waiting for pickup.
Destination and order fees as well as FSD do not count in the price qualification for the now ended tax incentive.

It sure looks like Elon is buying up a lot of extra inventory for his other private companies.

 

[EddieWalker]

Cybertruck flopped because there are only a small niche segment of people willing to pay that much money for something that ugly. It takes just the right person, and those persons already got one.

EV trucks in general are growing on me though. I leased a Ford F-150 Lightning Flash back at the end of summer and I've driven it everywhere. I've been on dates with the wife in it. We've been on a long trip to the lake. We've hauled her entire art show setup to Louisville with it. I've towed all my trailers with it. I've hauled plywood home from Lowe's with it. It has totally replaced my prior diesel truck and it's been amazing at 99% of what my prior trucks did for me. It's really grown on me a lot.

This winter when the wind chill is below zero and the wind is howling I won't be standing around at a diesel pump freezing my nuts off waiting for the truck to fill up. It's nice to just pull into my residential garage, hook up the truck, spend $14 bucks, and get a full "tank" again.

I really like the idea of the F-150 Lightning for a work truck. Get an 8 foot bed and a lockable storage area for tools under the hood. It would allow me to have all my tools with me and still be able to pick up materials. All of my work is in a one hour range from my house, and usually it's half that. Range and towing are not an issue for me, storage and hauling stuff is.

As of right now I don't see it happening, but when my current truck needs replacing, I'll look at it. Odds are good right now that I'll end up buying a big block gas F-250, but it's not 100%.

 

[EddieWalker]

The house that I'm working on this month is in an upper end kind of neighborhood called The Woods in Tyler. I see Teslas driving by all day long there. They are all cars, and I don't know one from another, but so far, no Tesla Trucks.

 

[DarkBlack]

An interesting aspect of the electric cars is that the performance doesn't come with a loss of efficiency. A big electric motor has essentially the same efficiency as a small one.

Technically, counter-intuitively, larger electric motors are always more efficient than smaller electric motors of the same design, as are gasoline and diesel engines, which also almost always have higher efficiency with increasing size.
What you actually mean, which is true, is the overall vehicle efficiency( not the motor efficiency) , which of course goes down with an oversized ICE powered vehicle operating at partial load.

 

[EddieWalker]

R. G. Letourneau wrote in his autobiography that electric motors are so much more powerful than gas or diesel engines that they didn't need transmissions. He built his mining equipment with one on each tire.

I don't know if Tesla has a transmission, but I find it interesting how much power electric motors have.

 

[tradosaurus]

Cybertruck flopped because there are only a small niche segment of people willing to pay that much money for something that ugly. It takes just the right person, and those persons already got one.

EV trucks in general are growing on me though. I leased a Ford F-150 Lightning Flash back at the end of summer and I've driven it everywhere. I've been on dates with the wife in it. We've been on a long trip to the lake. We've hauled her entire art show setup to Louisville with it. I've towed all my trailers with it. I've hauled plywood home from Lowe's with it. It has totally replaced my prior diesel truck and it's been amazing at 99% of what my prior trucks did for me. It's really grown on me a lot.

This winter when the wind chill is below zero and the wind is howling I won't be standing around at a diesel pump freezing my nuts off waiting for the truck to fill up. It's nice to just pull into my residential garage, hook up the truck, spend $14 bucks, and get a full "tank" again.

Beauty is definitely in the eyes of the beholder. I personally love the look of the Cybertruck and find most new car designs boring.

I test drove the Chevrolet and Ford EV trucks and like them except for the touchscreen interface. Tesla is far beyond any other EV mfg in their tech.
We have FSD and love it in our Y.

 

[tradosaurus]

Tesla, Elon Musk's electric car company, has always been on the innovative edge of car technology. The Cybertruck pushed that boundary, offering the power and utility of a truck in an EV form. Despite being an exciting idea, it hasn't had the best reception, with multiple recalls and a negative overall public perception which has made the Cybertruck plummet in value. Still, it can't be argued that it introduced something different to the automobile world. Now, though, there's a new EV truck entering the ring.

TELO specializes in electric trucks, with its first model going by the name TELO MT1. It boasts an impressive range, great capability, and a practical size for urban environments. It also has a reasonable price at $41,520, compared to the Cybertruck's cost of $72,235.

What makes TELO stand out is that it has the backing of Marc Tarpenning. Tarpenning is the original co-founder of Tesla, though he is now a Venture Partner at Spero Ventures. Spero Ventures' focus is on supporting companies that are innovating products and services for a sustainable and better future for the planet, and one such company is, of course, TELO. That makes TELO's new EV truck an exciting prospect.

I keep hearing this statement about the CT. Good luck finding a used CT under $60k.

 

[tradosaurus]

A lot of people want a 'one size fits all' vehicle which I'm thinking is why crew cab large pickups are so popular, a 4dr family sedan+truck, but just like I have a variety of tools I bet there would be a market for a small inexpensive truck.
I see a lot of Mitsubishi minicab trucks around here. They're inexpensive, economical, tilt bed (imagine unloading gravel, wood, dirt, hay...anything with a tilt bed). For getting supplies or working around the farm they have a purpose.
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We have these where I work. All manual transmission. If your trip is less than 20 miles they would be OK. Not a comfortable vehicle and I don't believe the MPG is that great either.

 

[tradosaurus]

The people making the cyber truck never used a pickup as a pickup, so they built the wrong vehicle for this demographic.

You mean like the majority of pickup owners?

 

[ruffdog]

It sure looks like Elon is buying up a lot of extra inventory for his other private companies.

....hundreds of them. Real sales of the CT has flat-lined.........


And the real picture could look even worse without some creative insider efforts to hide the company’s abysmal Cybertruck sales: Musk has started selling unsold Cybertruck inventory to his own companies, as Electrek reports; SpaceX has taken delivery of hundreds of the trucks and is expected to receive thousands more. Carriers were also seen delivering trucks to Musk’s AI startup xAI’s offices.

It’s an embarrassing admission that what was once Musk’s most beloved pet project has turned into a disaster.

Elon Musk Is Making Cybertruck Sales Look Better by Selling a Huge Number to Himself

 

[EscapedSuburbia]

I remember years ago when the RAM was restyled to make the front look like a semi. I hated it, but over the years it's grown on me. I don't think the Cybertruck is ever going to grow on me. It looks like something my 2 year old grandson would draw.

 

[KennyG]

Tesla is the public face for Musk and it's fun to watch all the haters jump on Tesla sales figures, but that's just a distraction. He has now put 10,000 Starlink satellites in space and successfully launched 132 rockets this year. Add to that the Boring Company, Neuralink, and the robotics work and electric cars are just footnote.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Tesla is the public face for Musk and it's fun to watch all the haters jump on Tesla sales figures, but that's just a distraction. He has now put 10,000 Starlink satellites in space and successfully launched 132 rockets this year. Add to that the Boring Company, Neuralink, and the robotics work and electric cars are just footnote.

I'm far from a Musk hater, actually I'm the opposite. We have Starlink as our home internet. But, the Cyber Truck IS a flop.

 

[jmc]

....hundreds of them. Real sales of the CT has flat-lined.........


And the real picture could look even worse without some creative insider efforts to hide the company’s abysmal Cybertruck sales: Musk has started selling unsold Cybertruck inventory to his own companies, as Electrek reports; SpaceX has taken delivery of hundreds of the trucks and is expected to receive thousands more. Carriers were also seen delivering trucks to Musk’s AI startup xAI’s offices.

It’s an embarrassing admission that what was once Musk’s most beloved pet project has turned into a disaster.

Elon Musk Is Making Cybertruck Sales Look Better by Selling a Huge Number to Himself

 

[jmc]

Looking back, I think Musk's public demonstration of the CT's unbreakable windows was an omen.

 

[ruffdog]

Looking back, I think Musk's public demonstration of the CT's unbreakable windows was an omen.

That demonstration sure didn't make me want to buy one.