Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

[Oaktree]

Having driven my Cousin's Cyber Truck and taking it back to our hunting property last month in the snow with 3 of us in it and it performing just fine and never even spinning a wheel, I was very impressed. I was also impressed at how the battery adapted to the very cold temperature (never got above 15 degrees (f) the entire time we were up there). I was impressed and granted it's fugly but as the old saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

But there's no reason you can't build an E-truck that's otherwise a normal truck. It doesn't have to have weird non-intuitive controls or look like something out of a bad 80s sci-fi movie.

 

[5030]

Like I said previously, 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' and my cousin likes the truck and he bought it, not me.

Personally speaking I like it a lot better than the lifted, wheels sticking out the sides, loud exhaust behemoth things that fly down the road sucking up expensive fuel and really doing nothing but posing. The Cyber truck does what it needs to do, quietly and efficiently, least from my perspective it does and unlike I believe all the commenters on this thread, I had a chance to drive one, on road and off road and it does what it's supposed to do, least in my view it does.

Again, I'd never own one but getting the chance to drive one, I was very impressed with it. Now, if Elon wants to give me one......

 

[HawkinsHollow]

I wouldn't drive one if I got it for free. Dumb looking.

 

[5030]

I wouldn't drive one if I got it for free. Dumb looking.

Nice thing about living here is you have choices as well as opinions and while my opinion may not be aligned with yours, I'm still allowed to express mine.

My cousin likes them and owns 3 Tesla's and I suspect he's worth a lot more than you are anyway. I'm also pretty confident he could care less what your opinion is anyway.

Like the old, well worn adage says... 'opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one and most stink'....lol

 

[jmc]

...and I suspect he's worth a lot more than you are anyway. .....

Like the old, well worn adage says... 'opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one and most stink'....lol

Irony alert.

 

[5030]

Irony alert.

Huh.....

 

[scootr]

I don't like the look of them. I view people who drive the the same way I view people driving super expensive cars.
I's just not for me. I suspect most cybertruck owners don't really need a working truck. They are certainly not gonna be pulling their gooseneck trailer with that.

 

[5030]

You got it exactly right. Not for everyone but for a few. Just like owning a Bugatti. Not for everyone (and certainly not me) but there will always be a select few that own and can afford one.

The rest of us have to be satisified with a cookie cutter vehicle that today is overpriced anyway.

 

[Renze]

I wouldn't drive one if I got it for free. Dumb looking.

That was exactly the point... It was never targeted at the business owner that needs a practical work truck... It was targeted at people who want something different.

What is Teslas share doing nowadays ? It used to be a pyramid scheme, people were paying whatever the price, because they thought it was a scarcity like Bitcoins and that prices would only keep going up...

Whether Tesla shares or Bitcoins, there is no(t enough) physical value to back it, only peoples hopes and dreams...

There was a time that Musk could refinance by emitting shares... though in Europe, Tesla sales have tanked 40% since Musk became an outspoken political player to whom many dont want to be likened to, instead of the new age businessman people wanted to be likened to...

So i have a hunch that sooner or later, the hot air in Tesla stock releases..

 

[ruffdog]

So i have a hunch that sooner or later, the hot air in Tesla stock releases..

I think that air has been hissing out for a while now.

 

[shooterdon]

Actually, Tesla stock is doing very well. I find it surprising but that is reality.

$183 last year and $397 now.

 

[scootr]

You got it exactly right. Not for everyone but for a few. Just like owning a Bugatti. Not for everyone (and certainly not me) but there will always be a select few that own and can afford one.

The rest of us have to be satisified with a cookie cutter vehicle that today is overpriced anyway.

I could afford one but why would I want to waste my money on a $100k that can't do so many things a gas or diesel truck does... no, it's a gimmick, a status symbol, a lifestyle choice, a political statement...maybe all of these but it sure as hell is not a pickup truck as we know and use them. You do you, I passed. No surprise, I passed on the whole electric car craze.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Actually, Tesla stock is doing very well. I find it surprising but that is reality.

$183 last year and $397 now.

Stockholders have pinned their hopes on robotaxis, AI, and robots, not car sales.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Long ago I thought the battery vehicle thing was a craze. A flash in the pan.
For big cities it may make some sense to divert pollution somewhere else. The cybertruck looks to be designed by some computer geek who never saw or owned a real truck.

 

[WinterDeere]

I don't like the look of them. I view people who drive the the same way I view people driving super expensive cars.
I's just not for me. I suspect most cybertruck owners don't really need a working truck. They are certainly not gonna be pulling their gooseneck trailer with that.

I have a cousin who presently drives a Model 3 Dual Motor, and has already told me he'll be replacing it with a Cybertruck, when the time comes to replace that car. His heaviest trailer is a small landscape trailer he uses for hauling his lawn tractor or zero turn mower... and it's too small to even do both of those at once. He's also a weekend warrior moving material for DIY projects. The Cybertruck is probably perfect for him, but it's still ugly.

 

[WinterDeere]

Stockholders have pinned their hopes on robotaxis, AI, and robots, not car sales.

I still remember the words of my first boss, "the stock market is driven by fear and greed, with little or no relation to reality."

Predict company X revenue will go up 6%, but then the earnings report shows it only rose by 5%, and the stock price will drop.

 

[NoTrespassing]

I still remember the words of my first boss, "the stock market is driven by fear and greed, with little or no relation to reality."

Predict company X revenue will go up 6%, but then the earnings report shows it only rose by 5%, and the stock price will drop.

Look at GM stock today, 9% haircut after a pretty good earnings report.

 

[5030]

I don't like the look of them. I view people who drive the the same way I view people driving super expensive cars.
I's just not for me. I suspect most cybertruck owners don't really need a working truck. They are certainly not gonna be pulling their gooseneck trailer with that.

I will say one thing about them, we had no issue fitting 3 large gutted does in the bed at all and the added weight of them plus out hunting gear and 3 of us didn't impact the ride or handling one bit off roading out of the property or getting back to town either.

My cousin told me the bed has more room than his Ram truck has, he has one of those as well, so he ought to know.

With 3 large gutted deer carcasses in the bed, we still had room for the rifles and hunting boots, no problem and he was able to close the electric tonneau cover as well.

One aspect of it that I really appreciated was the instant climate control. Being in the teens, it was nice to get into an instantly warm cabin unlike an ICE vehicle that would have to be remote started to warm up.

I have no idea on the cold weather range as I didn't ask and there was a Supercharger station right across from the hotel where we stayed and I have no idea what it cost to charge either. Thy might be ugly, but impressively ugly.

 

[hayden]

Other that providing a way for investors to make $$, and to kick other auto makers in the pants, Tesla has no reason to exist.

An electric motor in a car is nothing more than a line-item option. Check one box: Gas, Diesel, Hybrid, Electric. Now pick the color, choose your interior trim package, etc. It doesn't even justify a specific car model, let along a whole company. There is nothing to prevent every car manufacturer from offering electric versions of their cars. Oh, wait, they are already doing that. You don't see specific car models because they have an automatic transmission rather than a manual transmission. And you surely don't see a whole car company built around offering automatic transmissions.

All the feedback I get from people who have owned Teslas is that they are fundamentally crappy cars. Lots of problems, and cheap construction. Electric, yes. But otherwise crap. Other companies are underselling their forecasts of electric cars. That speaks to real market demand. The only reason Tesla is selling more is because it's a fashion statement. A way for indulgent people to green-wash themselves. It's for 1%ers to demonstrate their greenness.

 

[scootr]

I think the cyber truck's outward appearance hinders its acceptance. The design is for a niche that for the most part can't afford it
And if that is such a great design why don't his cars look the same? Because they are very popular....