Is the B3030 enough tractor for me?

   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #41  
Sorry to hear of your problems. But if you read my post I had just as many problems with my deere as you did with your Case. And I know plenty that have had problems with Kubota. They all have problems from time to time. The 595(24hp) was actually larger then the dx24e same horsepower larger in size. The real problem was you and I under bought for what we needed our tractors for and that lead to some of the malfunctions. I know I was asking mine to do more then it was designed for. I have also seen plenty of 2210's (23 hp) traded in because they were not strong enough. I have been completely impressed with the power and ablities of the dx33 that I have. And everytime I have called Case or New holland with a question they have gotten right back to me and been very polite and knowledgeable. It was Deere that would not return my calls they would always forward it to the dealer or ignore it. But then again I think any of them would serve you well.
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #42  
I would never have guessed the 8N was 3000 lb. bare. Wider, yes, but I didn't think it was that heavy. My FIL had an 8N and then a WD-45 (which seems to be much bigger when sitting on it due to the higher perch but wears the same size rear tires). His professional opinion, having farmed for a living with both, is that his WD-45 would all but pull the 8N sideways through a field. I don't know the weight of the WD-45, but the engine seems a lot stronger than any 8N I ever drove.

I used my second 8N, the one with the Sherman tranny, equipped with chains and a 6' blade to try to clear my driveway here several years ago. Even with chains, it wouldn't pull the grade up to the house with any snow in front of the blade. I went back to my old Cadet 109 with the front blade and chains to get the job done. My little Kubota, acquired a year or two after selling the 8N, will run up and down the same driveway pulling the same amount of snow that the 8N wouldn't. This an old B7100 with FEL, tipping the scales at about 1250 lb and making 16 hp when new..

Weight is not always a good thing. In fact, one of the selling points of the Ferguson system Fords was that they could pull the same amount of plow as a much heavier tractor due to the design of the then new 3 point hitch that transferred the weight of the plow to the tractor.

I am not advocating that anyone move on from a grand machine like an 8N if it's getting the job done. However, if someone is looking for a machine in that power range, I think the 4wd of the newer compacts will in the end win out in sheer ability to pull more things in more situations. A Kubota is built light for it's power, a Mahindra is built heavy, and others are in between. A person shopping has a choice, depending on whether they think sheer weight is important in their situation. For me, weight is something that can be added a lot easier than it can be removed, so I tend toward lighter construction unless the weight is the result of construction to reach a needed design parameter such as resistance to flexing.

Maybe I'm too much influenced by the Colin Chapman philosphy of "simplicate and add lightness". Granted, that was intended toward a totally different scenario (sports car design), but it goes well with the "Form follows function" philosophy of Frank Lloyd Wright, another man whose work I admire. Weight with a purpose, yes. But weight for it's own sake, no.
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me?
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The Ford operator's manual for my 8N gives its "shipping weight" as 2,410 pounds "including gasoline, oil, water, tires filled with air, operator not included".
 
   / Is the B3030 enough tractor for me? #44  
According to tractordata.com the 8N weighed approximately 2700 lbs. and had 27 pto HP.

www.tractordata.com
 

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