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[kenmac]

a safe bet to say that MTD builds all the toro, jd, husky, etc, etc, lawn tractors that they sell at lowes & hd ??

 

[brin]

probalby so and Murray mowers and tractors too I would imagine...sure would like to know for sure...

 

[Wacky]

I think so. I think they make the small Cubs too, at least that is what a salesman told me.

 

[Scooby074]

a safe bet to say that MTD builds all the toro, jd, husky, etc, etc, lawn tractors that they sell at lowes & hd ??

yep, but im not sure about the cheaper JD's i THINK they still make them in house/


MTD owns CUB, ,bolens, Troybuilt plus many others.
Murray is owned by Briggs but i suspect they likely source some or all from MTD

Cub Cadet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MTD Products - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[RandyT]

Dont know about the MTD/Briggs relationship now. I do know that MTD stopped buying briggs engines for a year or two after briggs bought murray. That was the same year the MTD started inporting chinese engines for their products. The chinese import engines is what killed Tecumseh since MTD was their biggest purchaser of their engines.

 

[jinman]

a safe bet to say that MTD builds all the toro, jd, husky, etc, etc, lawn tractors that they sell at lowes & hd ??

MTD builds some lower-end products for Toro, but none for JD or Husqvarna. That's the simplest way to answer your question, but if you look at the link provided by Scooby074 to MTD Products, you can scroll down and see a full list of MTD products.

 

[LBrown59]

a safe bet to say that MTD builds all the, jd, husky, etc, etc, lawn tractors that they sell at lowes & hd ??

JD by JD.
Husky Bolens Troy built by MTD
CC by CC

 

[Denwa]

JD by JD.
Husky Bolens Troy built by MTD
CC by CC

The local dealer selling CC would beg to differ with your above assessment.
He told me that CC was now the "premium" line for MTD. Said they were a cut or two above most other box store offerings, especially the JD's.

Me, I don't know what to believe as to what's a reasonable choice for a new lower cost rider. I was looking at JD's but then I went to Consumer Reports web site. The "ratings" are pretty good for the JD's and the CC's, BUT if one
reads the user reviews on either, it 50/50 at best, with lots of complaints about
cheap build and crummy service. I was seriously looking at the CC LTX1045,
but the negative 50% have got me spooked.

Luckily some guy locally was giving away a really rough old MTD, and I've got
it to where it does a good job of scalping my lawn at the highest blade setting, so for the moment I don't HAVE to buy something.

Where to go??? Which way to jump? Anyone out there have any opinions on the current Cub Cadet line?

Dennis

 

[LBrown59]

Originally Posted by LBrown59
JD by JD.
*Husky Bolens Troy built by MTD
CC by CC


1*The local dealer selling CC would beg to differ with your above assessment.
2*He told me that CC was now the "premium" line for MTD.
3*Said they were a cut or two above most other box store offerings, especially the JD's.
4*Me, I don't know what to believe as to what's a reasonable choice for a new lower cost rider. I was looking at JD's but then I went to Consumer Reports web site.
5*The "ratings" are pretty good for the JD's and the CC's, BUT if one
reads the user reviews on either, it 50/50 at best, with lots of complaints about
cheap build and crummy service.
6*I was seriously looking at the CC LTX1045,
but the negative 50% have got me spooked.
Anyone out there have any opinions on the current Cub Cadet line?

Dennis

*======I Should have said Troy built/ Husky /Bolens are all built by MTD for the low entry level throw away riding mowers sold at the big box stores.
CC is the only one that is offered by MTD for both the cheap entry level box store market And the the better upper quality Dealers products .
The 1000 series are found at the Big box stores .
The better /best 2000 and 3000 heavy dutey top quality tractors are found at the dealers.
These are comparable to the simplicity products and the JD x series.
1*I don't blame him as i made an error in my original post.
2*Not the ones sold at the Big BOX Stores. That stuff's bout all the same no matter the label or who made it.
3*JD dealers probably tell their customers just the opposite.
4*I've come to the conclusion that the best deal on a BBS riding mower is forget the label and the manf and get the lowest price and pick it up at a dealer where you get service.
Box stores don't have a service department.
And set up is usualy done by some pimply faced kid.
5*That's not surprising since the Big Box Store mowers are all the same no made who it or the label on it.
6*Stay away from the 1000 series at the BIG BOX STORE .
Go to the cub dealer and get a 2000 series .
I bought a GT2554 and discovered it offered more bang for the buck than anything else out there .

 

[honorbound]

MTD makes and sells Troy Built, Cub, Craftsman, Mastercraft, Husky and Bolens just to name a few.

 

[Heywood Jannockitov]

Aren't Craftsmans now made by AYP? They sure resemble Husqvarnas.

 

[LBrown59]

MTD makes and sells Troy Built, Cub, Craftsman, Mastercraft, Husky and Bolens just to name a few.

MTD does not make or sell Craftsman.

Aren't Craftsmans now made by AYP? They sure resemble Husqvarnas.

U R right AYP builds one tractor and puts Craftsman labels on some and Husqvarna labels on the others.

 

[Denwa]

MTD does not make or sell Craftsman.


U R right AYP builds one tractor and puts Craftsman labels on some and Husqvarna labels on the others.

Just did a Google search on APY Lawn Tractors and no reverence pop other than parts for same. Kind a strange and not confidence building that a "major" manufacturer does not have a web site.

On any reviews I've read, The Husky Tractors don't do any better than JD or CC when it comes to user reviews.

Granted, a new out of the box mower of any ilk might do well on Consumer Reports type tests, but several mowings and a few months down the lawn seem to produce fairly uniform dissatisfaction with all brands offered in the US of A.

One of my concerns is service, and I would LIKE to be able to buy from a dealer I can deal with as necessary. A Sears tractor is therefor out of the running, though they seem to get slightly better press than some of the others.

Dang, what's a guy to do? For the price of a new one, buying a known runner of some older vintage and keeping it going would seem like a more cost effective option a lot of times.

As with our beleaguered auto industry, it seems that lawn tractor offerings by US manufactures just don't have the build quality that one would want. However, it does not seem that we have any options, at a reasonable price.

Really too bad that Honda got out of the rider market.
They could have set the standard. If what I've heard is correct, the quit the game because they gave up trying to fight the low end competition. *I* say come on back Honda!
Or, Kawasaki or ??? Perhaps BMW, Aprilla?

It looks as if I may just need to wrap the old brain around the concept of a long lasting, maintainable, low hassle lawn tractor is going to cost $3K +/-, and likely on the plus side.

Still scalping with my old MTD,
Dennis

 

[Scooby074]

Just did a Google search on APY Lawn Tractors and no reverence pop other than parts for same. Kind a strange and not confidence building that a "major" manufacturer does not have a web site.


Dennis

AYP is husquvarna formerly Electrolux.Husqvarna: About Husqvarna

I too wish Honda would come back, They were very nice machines, but priced quite high compared to the others.

Have you looked at the x300 series deeres. Id avoid all the entry level big box store machines from any of the manufacturers. they are price point machines.

I was having the same dilima as yourself in my recent purchase of a lawn mower. I wanted a quality, lomg lasting machine. I ended up with a Deere x540 and have been very satisfied so far. All hydraulic steer and deck lift, very comfortable drive, plus liquid cooled:thumbsup: id highly recommend it, but they arent cheap

 

[Heywood Jannockitov]

It looks as if I may just need to wrap the old brain around the concept of a long lasting, maintainable, low hassle lawn tractor is going to cost $3K +/-, and likely on the plus side.

Still scalping with my old MTD,
Dennis

Scooby has the right idea on the JD x series machines. They're nice.

You basically have to pretend those big box, low price point machines don't even exist.

And if Honda re-entered the market, they ain't gonna be $1,500.00 machines either. So, just resist the enticing low prices of the el cheapos. After a year or so, the higher initial purchase price of a quality machine doesn't hurt anymore, but you'll be happier in the long run.

 

[LBrown59]

Scooby has the right idea on the JD x series machines. They're nice.

You basically have to pretend those big box, low price point machines don't even exist.

And if Honda re-entered the market, they ain't gonna be $1,500.00 machines either. So, just resist the enticing low prices of the el cheapos.
*After a year or so, the higher initial purchase price of a quality machine doesn't hurt anymore, but you'll be happier in the long run.

Good point.

 

[Denwa]

..... So, just resist the enticing low prices of the el cheapos. After a year or so, the higher initial purchase price of a quality machine doesn't hurt anymore, but you'll be happier in the long run.

Ain't that the way it always REALLY is. You pay now or you pay later, which, if you factor in down time and aggravation vs.
satisfaction, makes spending the extra money up front the much more intelligent choice. Guess I'll start looking at the X factor in that no metric lawn tractors seem to be available here.

Appreciate the input!,
Dennis