Is a 1967 Ford 2000 metric?

[Rford]

I thought this would be easy to find out but not so much. I bought a 1967 (I think) Ford 2000 the other day and am going over it. The front nose bracket that connects the cowl to the front of the engine block was not attached. I used a 3/8 inch new bolt and it would not grab, so I assumed the holes were stripped. I found a different bolt -- too long -- and it seemed to thread in much better and I think it will hold. I checked the long bolt at the hardware store and I think its a metric M10-1.5 (not sure on the 1.5). So I'm wondering if that tractor is metric. I'll pull a couple of fasteners next time I'm at the farm and do some investigating but thought someone might know.

I've had some problem with the serial number - looks like a "C" followed by 18. So that would mean made in USA and I'd assume its SAE. However, I think one of the tires is original and it says "made in England." It has a CAV fuel injector.

Does anyone know if these were made in both SAE or Metric?

Also, what holds the radiator in place on the top? I see its attached by two bolts on the bottom. It looks like when I get the new bolts in the bracket the radiator fan shroud is going to be rubbing on the generator pulley.

Thanks in advance.

 

[M Owens]

The easiest way to tell if a bolt is metric is to look at the head. If it is numberred like; 8.8 or 10.9 it is metric. If it has radiating dashes it is SAE. 3 dashes is grade five, 6 dashes is grade 8, and 9 dashes are grade 9 bolts.

 

[DJ54]

I may have the wrong item, but according to the NH online parts book, it shows the bolt being a 7/16"-14 X 3/4".

You can go to Messicks: Home | Messicks's and look at the online parts books. They have great exploded views, along with part numbers, description, and price, if needed.

 

[Rford]

Thanks DJ54! That's a great site. The diagrams and descriptions are much better than the manuals I have. I bookmarked that page and will be using it often I am sure. I picked up a couple 7/16 bolts and while they seem a bit big just to look at I am sure they'll fit perfect.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Those tractors are all SAE bolts.

 

[DJ54]

I do believe I saw a thumb screw that holds the grill in were metric thread.

 

[whis]

1967 it's not metric

 

[RickB]

Might be metric fasteners on the Lucas electrical components. That would be about it.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Might be metric fasteners on the Lucas electrical components. That would be about it.

Are spark plug threads metric?
BTW, The signature you have at the bottom of your posts seems rather relevant this morning.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Might be metric fasteners on the Lucas electrical components. That would be about it.

Are spark plug threads metric?
BTW, The signature you have at the bottom of your posts seems rather relevant this morning.

 

[LD1]

Should be metric. But who knows what has happened in the last ~50 years. Its possible the original 3/8 bolt was stripped, and since 10mm is slightly larger, maybe someone had a 10mm bolt and tap handy and made a simple and common repair.

 

[TractorTech]

I thought this would be easy to find out but not so much. I bought a 1967 (I think) Ford 2000 the other day and am going over it. The front nose bracket that connects the cowl to the front of the engine block was not attached. I used a 3/8 inch new bolt and it would not grab, so I assumed the holes were stripped. I found a different bolt -- too long -- and it seemed to thread in much better and I think it will hold. I checked the long bolt at the hardware store and I think its a metric M10-1.5 (not sure on the 1.5). So I'm wondering if that tractor is metric. I'll pull a couple of fasteners next time I'm at the farm and do some investigating but thought someone might know.

I've had some problem with the serial number - looks like a "C" followed by 18. So that would mean made in USA and I'd assume its SAE. However, I think one of the tires is original and it says "made in England." It has a CAV fuel injector.

Does anyone know if these were made in both SAE or Metric?

Also, what holds the radiator in place on the top? I see its attached by two bolts on the bottom. It looks like when I get the new bolts in the bracket the radiator fan shroud is going to be rubbing on the generator pulley.

Thanks in advance.

As previously stated, the major castings were SAE with the exception of some components. C should be the prefix as it was built in Michigan, but the engine was built in Basildon England.

 

[Ultradog MN]

Should be metric. But who knows what has happened in the last ~50 years. Its possible the original 3/8 bolt was stripped, and since 10mm is slightly larger, maybe someone had a 10mm bolt and tap handy and made a simple and common repair.

Not so.
They were 7/16 UNC X 3/4" as stated above.

 

[Ultradog MN]

As previously stated, the major castings were SAE with the exception of some components. C should be the prefix as it was built in Michigan, but the engine was built in Basildon England.

Not so.
The US tractors - at least through the Thousand Series - had engines built in the US.
They also built the same engines in Basildon for the EU market.
Later tractors, maybe starting with the 3600s or 10 Series all had engines built in Basildon.
They were all SAE bolts and nuts.

 

[TractorTech]

Not so.
The US tractors - at least through the Thousand Series - had engines built in the US.
They also built the same engines in Basildon for the EU market.
Later tractors, maybe starting with the 3600s or 10 Series all had engines built in Basildon.
They were all SAE bolts and nuts.

Okay, I'll restate. They were Basildon Series Diesels (BSD), and were of English design origin and SAE fasteners.

 

[Ultradog MN]

I do believe I saw a thumb screw that holds the grill in were metric thread.

Not so.
The thumb screws are 5/16 UNC

 

[DJ54]

Copied & pasted from the New Holland online parts store.

11 STUD Screw, Thumb, M8 x 16, Years: 01-JAN-65-31-MAR-68, Serial Range: Grille-Shell-Thumb 412575 $19.88 3 in stock

 

[Ultradog MN]

Copied & pasted from the New Holland online parts store.

11 STUD Screw, Thumb, M8 x 16, Years: 01-JAN-65-31-MAR-68, Serial Range: Grille-Shell-Thumb 412575 $19.88 3 in stock

Dunno.
Photographed and uploaded from my junk drawers.
I do know a bit about threads - V sharp, ANS, ANF, ANC, square, acme, etc. Have cut many a set, both internal and external on a lathe.
Till this moment I would have put a pretty good bet they were 5/16X18.
Maybe someone knows if your metric size will fit my ANC.
PS,
Thumb screw is an original 1/65 to3/68 part.

 

[DJ54]

Yep, that's what I was wondering. At almost 20 bucks a pop, I'd make the 5/16 work...

 

[LD1]

Not so.
They were 7/16 UNC X 3/4" as stated above.

Wow, dont know why I typed that. Case of fingers not typing what the brain is saying.

I think i either meant "should be SAE" or "could be metric"???