InvisibleFence brand GPS containment???

[LD1]

Anyone have any experience with their system?

If I understand it correctly, a tech comes out, basically surveys the property, programs the collars, and that's it. No wires, and no circular boundaries like wireless devices.

Wondering if anyone has this, and what it cost. And if anyone other than invisiblefence brand offers similar.

I am looking to do something different for my 2 dogs. At my old house, I had an innotek 2100 system. (I think it was the 2100). It worked very well. Waterproof collars. Rechargeable by simply setting the collar on top of the unit. Charge lasted months. And gave a stout enough correction the dogs didn't like it.

After selling the house, knowing I would be staying at my parents for a month before moving into my new house, I purchases a havahart radial shape 2 wireless. Figuring I didn't want to burry any wires at the new house until I get the shop built and pond reworked.

Well, it sucks. Sometimes it gives correction sometimes not. And the highest correction level is little more than a tingle. Think half dead 9v battery on the tongue.

I have had to go back to the innotek with the wire just laying on top of the ground for now.

Hopefully someone knows how good these GPS units are and an approximate cost. It seems all the technology is available and quite affordable now.

 

[LD1]

My understanding of the GPS system is there is no run through. They are only safe within the safe zone, and will continue to revieve intermittent corrections whenever they are out of the safezone until they return. Unlike a wired system that is possible to get through, on a GPS, the correction zone is limitless.

As far as something else entering the zone, it is no different than any other type of invisible fence. In that it offers no protection.

Fortunatally, in my area, there isn't much to worry about. VERY few coyotes are the only predatory animals in my area. And they seem to keep their distance

 

[Tororider]

Looks like the Border Patrol TC1 is $600 and does what you are looking for.

 

[LD1]

I looked at those before I bought the wireless. I don't think those are a true GPS mapping. Not sure. But the 12-24 hour battery life was unacceptable to me.

 

[kidr]

My understanding of the GPS system is there is no run through. They are only safe within the safe zone, and will continue to revieve intermittent corrections whenever they are out of the safezone until they return. Unlike a wired system that is possible to get through, on a GPS, the correction zone is limitless.

This sounds like it would take a lot of training for the dog to understand. Could be very abusive .

 

[IXLR8]

This sounds like it would take a lot of training for the dog to understand. Could be very abusive.

Not much training needed if the dog has any brains and you do it right. You put flags near the zone edge and the dog learns quickly not to go past the flags. My cousin has 3 homes, invisible fence w/flags at their primary home. At their other homes they just put up the flags (no invisible fence system) and the dog stays within the 'flagged' zone. It works very well for them.

OP- my neighbor was looking into a GPS based fence system for their dog, when I get home this weekend I will see what, if anything, they did.

 

[Humblebub]

I have 6 German Sheps all are obedience titled and two are tracking titled. Invisible fence does not work for us. For some dogs it will work fine but ours revert to wolves when they feel their territory or people threatened. We worked long to train them to the fence but have up and installed 5 ft chain link. We also found need to fence out skunks, foxes and coyote.

 

[LD1]

I have no need to fence anything out. Nor do I want to. There is no need to try to sell me on the pros and cons of an invisible fence. I have had these dogs on them for the last 8 years. I am only asking about the GPS based fences in comparison to a wired fence, how much they cost, how well they work, etc.

To me, having a dog chained up or in a 10x10 kennel is abusive. I want to give the dogs the freedom to roam my 8.5acres and pond.

I am not gonna break the bank to put up a mile of unsightly fence that also limits my access.

IXLR8: looking forward to what you find out from your neighbors. And if they went forward, how they like it and how expensive it was. And if they didn't, what was their reason for not doing GPS.

 

[300UGUY]

I tried a wire system years ago, but it didn't work well. As long as the dogs, both 100 lbs plus sherpard mixes, had no stimulation, they stayed in the yard. If they saw something to chase, nothing was gonna stop them. As they passed by the wire, they would snarl and snap, but keep running. We tightened up the collars, even shaved the dogs necks, ( my wife owns a grooming shop ) but it just wouldn't stop them. The fence folks gave us the money back. It might work better if the dogs were young when they were trained, but both were over a year old. The big attraction to these guys was the KOA type campground about a mile away. If they got away, I'd usually find them there, going from campsite to campsite, begging. Kids loved them, and people would cook hamburgers and hot dogs for them! As long as one of us was outside with them, they were ok, but I couldn't just kick them outside. I eventually fenced in about 2 acres for a backyard. I worried about them getting harmed or harming somebodies dog, cat or livestock. Good fences really do make good neighbor's. And I never worry about a battery charging or not.

 

[oosik]

A friend with two Alaskan Huskies tried a wired system. After months of trying to train the dogs - he gave up. When stimulated - NOTHING will stop the two dogs. Fortunately, to this day, the dogs will still return home after their brief forays.
Here I have a small Cocker Spaniel. He has learned not to venture out too far, either day or night. His one encounter with coyotes, fortunately, was only a scare but it must be permanently etched. My only fences keep cattle out and the closest neighbor is 4.5 miles distance.

 

[kidr]

When stimulated - NOTHING will stop the two dogs. Fortunately, to this day, the dogs will still return home after their brief forays.

I doubt if that would be the case if they were continually shocked after they escaped. My experience with electricity and dogs tells me that they would probably keep running for the hills trying to escape the pain.

 

[oosik]

kidr - I concur. If continuously shocked I think they would head for the hills and not return. I have never heard of a system such as this nor had any experience with such a system. I really question the humanity or wisdom of such a system. I doubt that a system such as this would provide beneficial training.

 

[LD1]

I plan to call them today and ask a few questions.

I doubt that if the dogs get out that it will be a continuous shock until the battery is dead. Rather I would expect maybe 10 seconds or so of correction. And then if they don't return, only intermittent corrections to let them know they are still out of bounds.

Main things I am looking for answers to....

Collars. Waterproof and durable? And battery life?

Is there real-time location I can view, weather on the sender unit or on a computer program or app?

Cost?

Can things be changed in the future? And does that have to be done by a tech?

And what are the stimulation levels? If they are anything like the wireless I had, it just won't work. Dogs barely got a tingle. It needs to be something they don't like.

Will post back when I get some info.

 

[LD1]

Got some questions answered today.

The run through protection is not like I though. IF a dog leaves the boundary, it will continue to be shocked for a pre-determined time, up to 30 seconds and thats it. IF the dog can tolerate that, then they are out and free and wont get any more shocks until it returns to the safe zone and back out again.

There is no real-time tracking or app or anything

Collar batteries last about 2 days.

Any future changes has to be done by a tech.

Collar stimulation level is high. Can be set to a higher level than my current SD2100 system, which is good

Cost is about $3k

 

[murphy1244]

Cost is about $3k
Collar batteries last about 2 days

That don't sound like a good deal to me.

 

[IXLR8]

$3K does sound a bit steep, but I got quotes between $7K-$9K to put a fence around a section of my property, about 3/4 of an acre, to keep my dog in. It might be a tough choice between ugly fence for $8K or changing batteries every other day. Luckily our dog is older now and doesn't wonder as much and comes when called so we are not going to bother with a fence. Wife wants another dog to keep our present one company when we are at work, that could force me to rethink this.
LD1- I haven't talked to my neighbors yet, but I don't think they would dream of spending $3K to keep a $200 dog contained, especially since the husband hates dogs.

 

[LD1]

Yea, $3k is a little higher than I was hoping. Since GPS tech is quite affordable now. A wired system is only ~$300. And a good bit of that money is wire and sender unit. So Adding a GPS device in the mix I didnt dream it would make the cost go up 10x's.

I was willing to go somewhere in the $1000 range, or even a bit more. But for 3k, I will burry wire, since I still have my innotek system.
Another BIG reason I was wanting to go GPS was to not have that wire, cause about 4 acres of my property would be farmable with the removal of a fencerow. And was gonna let the farmer that farms the adjacent field farm it as it would be alot less for me to mow. Cannot let him farm if I have wire burried. And really wanted to give the dogs all of the land

 

[truckdiagnostics]

We use Havahart wireless. three dogs and it covers about a 5 arce circle. excellent service. Have a more expensive one that you can shape looked into pricey. Have dummy collars made then just move the collars around works slick. then only use wireless to retrain. dogs are mastive, new foundland yellow lab. had wired before this wire would break what a pain, going on 4 years now on this one.

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[LD1]

Not sure if you caught it in my first post, but the havahart wireless is what I had after I moved. At the old house was an innotek SD2100.

Only wire issues I had is when I had forgot where I burried it and dug into it. But I did opt for the heavier gauge wire.

Maybe I just got a dud of a system, but the collars barley made my fingers tingle when I crossed the line with it. Once the dogs figured that out, it was game over. You cannot train a do not to do something if there is no punishment. With the wired system, the punishment was a sharp shock. Almost like being bit by an electric fencer. They knew that and nothing was worth the pain of crossing.

I contacted havahart and they are letting me return the system and they will do a full diagnostic to see if something was not right and they are supposed to let me know. But the lack of a strong correction wasnt the only issue. Weather or not that weak correction was sent was very intermitten. Sometimes it would "tingle" and beep, other times nothing at all. And the two collars I had sensed the field at different distances. One of the collars read 10' different than the other, even with the collars side by side.

All in all, the system just confused the heck out of the dogs, and failed to deliver a strong enough correction.