Tires industrial tires vs agri

[koisw]

Just bought a kubota l3940, i have aprox 3 hours on it and now. I am getting near stuck in my 3 acres of mud. Im I being optimistic that it should be able to do loader dirt work while its so wet? Or would having agri tires make the difference? Or should I leave that for the spring/summer when it dries. Im in western washington and my soil has alot of clay which does not help.

 

[Bud Soda]

I replaced my stock tires with ag tires not long after I bought my tractor. Getting stuck in mud no more.

 

[bearcreek paul]

Ag tires work well in mud and clay but they make a mess.It's a trade off.My wife gives me heck when I'm on her lawn.

 

[mostly_gas]

Kiosw, are your tires filled or have extra weight on ? Ag tires are better in mud but they can get stuck as well.

 

[s219]

There are tons of posts here about people getting stuck in mud with all sorts of tires. My personal experience is that I have to choose my work days carefully this time of year. Right now it's real muddy, which makes it easy to get stuck and/or make a mess out of the yard. When you consider the weight of tractors and the contact area (or PSI) of the tires, it's obvious they can be trouble in mud, regardless of what tires you're running.

 

[kebo]

Chains should help out some, so that's something you can consider.

 

[koisw]

yes tires are filled...it is just a shame because where I live, 30 min outside seattle it rains......alot. Never thought of chains and you cant lower the psi in the tires because they are filled. Guess I should start on the fence building. Dealer was supposed to have agricultural tires on it...seems like a small project to change them out now.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Ags will help a lot in muddy conditions over industrials. If your doing a lot of loader work on dry or hard ground then the industrials would be a good choice but if its sloppy conditions and you don't have to worry as much about ruts then ags are the way to go. If your tractor was suppose to have them on then have it done. I think you will be a lot happier with the added traction you gain instantly.

 

[IndyIan]

Chains should help out some, so that's something you can consider.

Might be a good idea if you're going to plow snow with the tractor too.
I have Ag's and clay soil and the tractor doesn't get stuck too much until its making ruts deep enough to drag the front axle... Of course making ruts like that is a big mess but if you have to get something done in the mud that day, Ag's do work the best.
If you need to drive on your lawn more than the odd time, then Ag's are not for you as I find I need very dry conditions not to make 2" deep lug tracks.

 

[TripleR]

We have both and park them all when it's muddy, but you may not have that option. We have worked tractors with Ag and Industrial tires side by side and Ags are the clear choice for that.

 

[scoutcub]

Ags will help a lot in muddy conditions over industrials. If your doing a lot of loader work on dry or hard ground then the industrials would be a good choice but if its sloppy conditions and you don't have to worry as much about ruts then ags are the way to go. If your tractor was suppose to have them on then have it done. I think you will be a lot happier with the added traction you gain instantly.

Absolutely agree. In snow or mud, ags make a HUGE difference.

 

[DKCDKC]

In the Virginia mountains, winter and spring are mud times... I grew up here and watched tractors with ag tires struggle with the mud, but make it with some care and effort. I have friends with turf and industrial tires who simply stay on gravel or frozen ground all winter. They seem hopeless in mud. I waited an extra two weeks to just get my new JD CUT because I insisted it have ag tires. They had to order them.

Funny that ag tires are put on all CUT on display at the dealer, but all bigger machines have ag tires standard. I actually got $200 knocked off the price for the ag tires.

 

[Ford tractor]

You get stuck with both. Ags will leave far deeper ruts.

Industrials with chains... well you need special chains to keep the cross links from falling into the voids. Ring chain or H-bar.

In your shoes, I'd demand the Ag tires you wanted and the dealer was supposed to deliver.

 

[SPYDERLK]

yes tires are filled...it is just a shame because where I live, 30 min outside seattle it rains......alot. Never thought of chains and you cant lower the psi in the tires because they are filled. Guess I should start on the fence building. Dealer was supposed to have agricultural tires on it...seems like a small project to change them out now.

Youre home free if it was in the agreement for AGs. Its a rim change as well. If you can do with the ground disturbance AGs are the way to go for most everything but sand. You will need to run the fronts at max pressure for heavy loader work.
larry

 

[Gale Hawkins]

We have both and park them all when it's muddy, but you may not have that option. We have worked tractors with Ag and Industrial tires side by side and Ags are the clear choice for that.

Same here.

 

[wolc123]

Go back to the dealer and have him put Ags on it, plus he should give you at least $200 cash back as R4's cost more.

 

[Reg]

For LOADER work R4s all the way.
For MUD; R1s will get you out of the deeper ruts that they cut - so it is a trade off.
I have abandoned R1s, I just don't feel the need to even HAVE the ruts that they used to get me out of (-:
R4s are typically wider and in many cases as wide as (standard issue for any given tractor's options) turfs, so they "float" a bit better.
Their added width also allows more fluid ballast.

Oh Yeah, DO review previous threads on this - search "religious issues concerning tires".

 

[koisw]

Thanks everybody. I decided to call the dealer and ask. They will pick up/drop off for free and change tires to agri. With the beet juice for free. Awesome dealer, better price....great price with a couple of impliments at cost, free ballast. Felt like I was buying from a family member. I will hope all your opinions are right and improve traction. Will have done next week and give an update. Thanks again...this forum is awesome!

 

[D7E]

I've never seen R4 useful for anything other than mowing the lawn, even our backhoes are on ags now . R4's are terrible on large tractors on tillage ..poor grip and terrible compaction

 

[powerpace]

I've gotten them all stuck. Sometimes you just have to park it. What are others in your area running? That is usually a clue. For heavy ground work the AG tires are usually the first choice. If it is too muddy you may be causing more problems with your soil conditioning. Soil balling up, soil not turning, ruts etc...

If your running ag tires in rocks and debris laden soil and mud you may have more wear and tear. Ag tires have thinner sidewalls than R4S.