Implements...

[Hunter8282]

Starting from scratch here. Kioti NS4710H Cab w/3rd function on order.

Are there preferred implement manufacturers or does it depend the implement itself?

Which implements does it make sense to buy used and which would you prefer to buy new.

I know I want a grapple of some kind to move brush and logs etc., some kind of chisel plow and disk, some kind of mower (rotary or flail), something to pullup small trees and remove small stumps, probably a tiller.

Do you find any value in renting to try an implement out before buying? I am sure I'll have tons more questions as we go.

Do you find value in getting them through the local dealer vs buying online or box store?

Any and all advice greatly appreciated!

 

[RjCorazza]

For implements with a gear box, I prefer the "buy once - cry once" approach. Generally meaning quality name brand stuff. For implements like a rake, blade, or box blade typical farm stores can be adequate. I do inspect them closely for weld quality though.

 

[404nouser]

Get a set of pallet forks, you won't regret them.

 

[Hunter8282]

Yes pallet forks are on the list.

 

[Bootlegger750]

I like Iron Craft stuff, made well and are priced decent. I have to have a rotary cutter & land plane myself

 

[oosik]

What you will need depends upon what you plan on doing. Grapple is a life saver. I have a very HD grapple - made by Land Pride. My back can only handle minimum time collecting and picking stuff off the ground.

I use a Rhino rear blade and a Land Pride LPGS( land plane grading scraper) on my mile long gravel driveway.

I upgraded to a 2009 Kubota M6040 seventeen years ago. Finally - four years ago - I upgraded the last of my implements to Category 2. The added weight makes a world of difference. So does the added strength.

These are the brands I've had good luck with. Kubota - Land Pride - Rhino - WRLong - Pittsburg - Rankin - Bush Hog - Wallenstein - Fit Rite. Recognize - my choices are because the implement is available locally. I WILL NOT spend large sums of money buying anything over the internet. Large sums require a "hands on" approach. I have never been disappointed doing things this way.

 

[mike0000]

Once you have a grapple you find you can’t live without out one, or at least that’s my opinion. Loaded tires and something for a good counter weight is a must too.

 

[oosik]

My grapple is offset in the rear by - 1010 lb Rhino rear blade and 1550 lb of Rimguard in the rear tires.

Without this offset weight - my grapple would be SEVERLY limited in what it could pick up.

 

[drumminj]

I'll share what I have: pallet forks, bush hog, land plane, landscape rake, grapple, bucket, stump grinder, wood chipper, drag harrow, disc harrow.

As others have said, grapple is just a must-have for me. Use it all the time - moving downed limbs, cleaning up trees, I've felled, etc. Most of the others beyhond the bushhog are rarely used but nice to have when needed. Honestly, the land plane (which I just bent ironically) is the one I've wondered if I should have bought. Have used it a few times, but it's really just the rippers that have been helpful. My driveway hasn't really needed maintenance other than the drag harrow in the past 4 years.

Forks are definitely a nice thing to have - if just for unloading freight deliveries!

As far as what/where to buy, I've been happy with my Homestead Implments items (grapple, land plane, landscape rake), my LandPride (bush hog, bucket, and disc), Woodland Mills (chipper and grinder) and my Everything Attachments forks, but wouldn't reccomend doing business with them after all the issues. Definitely look at independent companies - good deals and strong implments out there. But Land Pride (obviously I'm exposed to the Kubota side of things) make good solid implements too.

 

[bigdeer2000]

I have had good luck getting name brand implements on Facebook marketplace. I like the heavier made older stuff best. I don’t have any John Deere tractors but really like their implements. Taylor way, woods, land pride

 

[Hunter8282]

Once you have a grapple you find you can’t live without out one, or at least that’s my opinion. Loaded tires and something for a good counter weight is a must too.

Yes, it will have loaded tires with Rim Guard.

 

[oosik]

Your heaviest implement on the 3-point will help offset the loads on the grapple also.

 

[Fxfymn413]

I have bought new when the price is right and a lot of used when the condition and price is right. I went to a lot of auctions (before on-line was a thing) when I was starting out to find out what stuff was going for and to bargain hunt.

Unless you are a commercial user most implements will serve you well as a home owner/small acreage owner. I don't see the need to buy heavy duty commercial grade stuff for what is a very part time need. I also heavily favor the used markets. Like all things in life if you need to buy it right now it will probably cost you more than taking your time to look at market place and CL, etc. for good buys.

As for grapples I favor adding one to the pallet forks over the standard root grapple unless you need to use it as a root grapple. The root grapples are heavy and do not have a lot of capacity for brush or loading multiple logs at once. There are add on grapples available from Titan for example.

 

[Torvy]

I bought attachments and implements based on the best I could get for my money. No two are the same brand. Most of the broad brands aren't really making everything they sell anyway, just adding a fee for the name.

I tend to buy new, but I would consider used on things like a box blade or land plane. Once you add gear boxes or hydraulics, you're dealing with hidden risks. I'm no mechanic, so digging into a problem isn't fun for me.

 

[HamishMacCheap]

What you will need depends upon what you plan on doing.

True

 

[CH4Ohio]

Starting from scratch here. Kioti NS4710H Cab w/3rd function on order.

Are there preferred implement manufacturers or does it depend the implement itself?

Which implements does it make sense to buy used and which would you prefer to buy new.

I know I want a grapple of some kind to move brush and logs etc., some kind of chisel plow and disk, some kind of mower (rotary or flail), something to pullup small trees and remove small stumps, probably a tiller.

Do you find any value in renting to try an implement out before buying? I am sure I'll have tons more questions as we go.

Do you find value in getting them through the local dealer vs buying online or box store?

Any and all advice greatly appreciated!

I wouldn't be afraid to buy any implement used, but look for stuff that's in excellent condition. Don't buy junk thinking you'll fix it up. You'll likely have this equipment till you simply have no use for it anymore. Don't buy anything that's bent up or has been repaired / welded.

As someone else mentioned, I see a LOT of deals on FB Marketplace. Deaths, divorce, and downsizing result in implements being offered for sale and you can decide on the price / savings / value for yourself. Just be ready to pounce when you see something you're interested in cause it will sell fast if it's priced right.

And, Buying USED from a DEALER is much different than buying USED from a private party. With a dealer you have to be more careful and you're likely paying a premium price. From a private party you need to listen to "why they're selling" and know what you're looking at.

I've never bought anything from the few online niche implement manufacturers. I don't think they can build a tiller or box blade, etc. any better than others and have no interest in paying for freight. (For a tiller, the older yellow King Kutter models are a great machine. The new ones might be just as good -- I don't know -- cause mine is 24 years old and still does a great job.)

I buy whatever I want. But for stuff like forks and blades and bush hogs and tillers I'd "save" searches on FB and watch daily for anything that fits my criteria. I like spending less when I can and usually find no reason to buy this kind of hardware new from a dealer. (Unlike a zero-turn, for example, which I'd almost never consider used. Very rare to find someone getting rid of a mower that's not a problem. Usually some friend or family would jump on that before it got listed.)

For tillers, box blades, grader blades, discs, and drags, you'll want something that's at least as wide as your rear tire tracks. Any of the best grade Rural King or TSC offerings should do as much work as Frontier, Land Pride, or Woods. They're all good brands. No need to waste rent money to test drive a blade.

For a finish mower or anything with belts and a gear-box, buy something that is perfectly straight and seems new. Used is still ok, but old bearings and spindles and bent decks can be a headache. Find one that's been sitting in a garage or barn and almost never used.

Anyway, good luck with your shopping! Just my opinion and general philosophy about acquiring accessories for your new tractor.

 

[CoyPatton]

Starting from scratch here. Kioti NS4710H Cab w/3rd function on order.

Are there preferred implement manufacturers or does it depend the implement itself?

Which implements does it make sense to buy used and which would you prefer to buy new.

I know I want a grapple of some kind to move brush and logs etc., some kind of chisel plow and disk, some kind of mower (rotary or flail), something to pullup small trees and remove small stumps, probably a tiller.

Do you find any value in renting to try an implement out before buying? I am sure I'll have tons more questions as we go.

Do you find value in getting them through the local dealer vs buying online or box store?

Any and all advice greatly appreciated!

I’ll try to give my $0.02 on your questions. (Caution advice solicited or not is often worth what you pay for it.).

If you plan to use a QH on your 3PH, make sure what you buy is compatible with the brand of QH you get—unfortunately not all QH implements (3PH) work with all QH’s.
Personally, I would only buy implements and attachments (loader based) From the dealer 1) good price on bundles and 2) included in financing and at good finance rate.

Personally, For non-gear box and non-hydraulic stuff, I prefer older stuff—it is often made with better quality steel

For PTO and hydraulic base stuff, I either want a price on equipment that replacing parts still reflects a bargain on price overall. Hydraulic cylinders and gear boxes are pricey and can be a lot of work to replace
I bought my tiller new, but replacement tines are not cheap—and then shipping (they are heavy) don't be surprised to pay as much for shipping as for the part. On tillers—I like s tiller with 6 tines per hub, I think they break up soil better in a single pass.

On subject of plow, disc and tiller, I would for plants definitely do the tiller, but likely not both the plow or the disc—just 1 will do the hard first break of the soil and reduced the wear on the tines.