I'm in shock... Kubota BX pricing

[ning]

What I don't understand about AGCO is Allis Chalmers had a very strong and extremely loyal following. As did Massey Ferguson up here in my part of Canada.
Yet they dump the orange and the Allis name, and barley promote Massey any more at all but they are more than happy to sell us NORTH AMERICANS a green German tractor????
Thankfully they have left Gleaner alone....so far.

I tried to look at masseys here in 2016 but I literally got zero response from the dealership, contacted corp and told them, and finally got a call back 6 months after I bought my tractor elsewhere. My guess was that the nearby massey shop didn't want to sell CUTs.

 

[Sid Post]

I tried to look at masseys here in 2016 but I literally got zero response from the dealership, contacted corp and told them, and finally got a call back 6 months after I bought my tractor elsewhere. My guess was that the nearby massey shop didn't want to sell CUTs.

Massey, CaseIH, etc. seem to be pretty regional tractors generally. Have a good dealer and you will have a strong following for the brand. No good dealers and surprise you have no brand recognition locally.

Locally, with a really strong John Deere dealer "network" and a bunch of Kubota dealership mergers, other brands are not represented well. COVID did let TYM/Branson gain some good market share with smaller tractors though so, I'm seeing a bunch of their CUT/SCUT tractors around. If I were in the market for a cabbed 30hp~65hp, TYM would be a strong contender for a solid tractor at a modest price with really good features today and where I live now.

 

[stumblinhorse]

I don’t have a dealer of any brand within 150 miles of me. So I buy based on value and features. For what I thought I needed and price, CNH was my top pick. I buy everything slightly to moderately used…

 

[Jaeger]

Have you seen the price of steel over the same time frame?

Think it was $170-ish per ton in 2005 and it's as high as $1,800-ish per ton now.

Even with the steel prices jumping, there's a whole lot less steel in a new machine than your 2005. I was shocked at how thin everything has gotten on the new tractors (look at a brushguard on a L series) Plus go over 25HP and deal with DEF etc...no thanks!

 

[sea2summit]

Even with the steel prices jumping, there's a whole lot less steel in a new machine than your 2005. I was shocked at how thin everything has gotten on the new tractors (look at a brushguard on a L series) Plus go over 25HP and deal with DEF etc...no thanks!

Please tell me which 30 hp tractors use DEF.

 

[Charliebrn]

Well, I’ve kinda decided to just keep the BX I have until I can no longer do the hookup on the belly mower. After that I’ll prob buck up a RFM and call it good. Maybe I’ll get lucky and pass before that sad day comes. I’m the meantime, after 18 years just had my first real repair on my BX. One of the spindle pulleys disassembled itself. $60 in parts, hopefully that’ll be it for a while.

 

[2manyrocks]

I needed to replace a Mahindra tractor because of not being able to find anyone to repair it that I trusted. Looked at Kubota new prices. New was too much for me, but I did find a used Kubota this week.

Sooner or later, the current bubble is going to pop. You might then seen some realistic pricing on used machines.

 

[walnutman]

I've had my Yanmar YT359C since last year.
The transmission is amazing.
Watch this video.

 

[2manyrocks]

My Yanmar 226d was made between 1981 -1991. It has a Power Shift transmission at the steering column that allows me to shift between reverse and three forward gears. There are a bunch of tractors today that have power shuttle transmissions, but they only allow a change between a single forward and reverse compared to what my 30-40 year old Yanmar could do back then (and today because it still runs great).

 

[5030]

Looked at Kubota new prices. New was too much for me, but I did find a used Kubota this week.

I got on the Kubota website and priced out (for kicks and grins) a new 100 horse M series and I was shocked as well. Not gonna happen here. Besides being T4 final they require DEF too.

 

[walnutman]

Paid 48k for my Yanmar YT359C.
This is a 60hp cab tractor comes with the loader and two rear remotes, a radio, heat A/C, 4x4. No DEF.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I got on the Kubota website and priced out (for kicks and grins) a new 100 horse M series and I was shocked as well. Not gonna happen here. Besides being T4 final they require DEF too.

The devaluation of the dollar and general economic ridiculousness that is the modern world, have really shown themselves in these major purchases. It's easy enough for the average consumer to justify a small purchase, or a treat, and just eat their frustration- but an automobile, tractor, or commercial equipment?! Sitting down and signing a loan, seeing those numbers, knowing what they were not long ago...

 

[2manyrocks]

There's been some other discussion on TBN whether Kubota builds finance charges into their pricing, but sometimes I wonder if part of Kubota's recent hefty price increases are also due to interest rates going up if they are actually doing that. I really don't want to pay extra to subsidize Kubota's financing to other customers if that is part of what is really going on.

 

[Hay Dude]

So, I'm getting older and some health issues have cropped up, as they tend to do. Taking on and off the mower deck on my BX2360 is getting tougher. I bought it in 2005 for about 12k, Tractor, 60" belly mower and loader. I saw somewhere that the newer JD and Kubota have made it easier by driving over and a more or less semi-automated hookup.

Doing some online pricing at their sites have left me in a state of complete shock! Is it true that I'm looking at close to 30k now??? Please tell me that I'm doing something wrong or that their SRPs are not near what dealers are charging.....

Thanks....

Terrible.
A large diesel 30+ HP zero turn is now pushing 30 grand, too.

 

[Sid Post]

Well, I’ve kinda decided to just keep the BX I have until I can no longer do the hookup on the belly mower. After that I’ll prob buck up a RFM and call it good. Maybe I’ll get lucky and pass before that sad day comes. I’m the meantime, after 18 years just had my first real repair on my BX. One of the spindle pulleys disassembled itself. $60 in parts, hopefully that’ll be it for a while.

I run a 72" Landpride Rear Finish Mower on my B-2601 and like it a lot. My friend likes the Mid-Mount Mower for it better but, I'm just the opposite.

The 3-pt mounted finish mower is great for backing up to the edge of the pond, backing under tree limbs I don't want to drive under, and following the ground contours with its 4-wheels really well giving me a very consistent cut height on uneven ground.

And, best of all, the hook-up is so much easier with it versus the MMM!

 

[Sid Post]

I got on the Kubota website and priced out (for kicks and grins) a new 100 horse M series and I was shocked as well. Not gonna happen here. Besides being T4 final they require DEF too.

Tried to buy an M5-111 before COVID, during COVID, and Post-COVID. I bought a Massey 5711-D, yes Dyna-4, for $20K less than the Kubota!

 

[Sid Post]

There's been some other discussion on TBN whether Kubota builds finance charges into their pricing, but sometimes I wonder if part of Kubota's recent hefty price increases are also due to interest rates going up if they are actually doing that. I really don't want to pay extra to subsidize Kubota's financing to other customers if that is part of what is really going on.

My Massey was built in France and was significantly cheaper than the comparable Kubota. I can't speak to Kubota or Massey/Agco business management practices but, let's just say I am a HUGE Massey fan right now. If my L-4600 or B-2601 die or are stolen, I will be looking at TYM or Massey personally. Yanmar is attractive but, I don't have any dealers I would trust within a reasonable driving distance.

 

[Sid Post]

As the economy tanks, I see things like these small diesel "mow" tractors and side-by-sides hitting the secondary market from people that impulse-bought and feel the pressure of "Bidenomics".

 

[5030]

As the economy tanks, I see things like these small diesel "mow" tractors and side-by-sides hitting the secondary market from people that impulse-bought and feel the pressure of "Bidenomics".

you got that right 110%

 

[dieselbob69]

Got my BX2380 end of December 2021 for $18500- loader, 60” regular (not crappy drive over)deck and R4 tires. Same setup a few months ago was almost $24k at same dealer. Lucky to get 0% for 60 months. Only thing that sucked at the time was KTAC was put into the payments, when I got the BX1870 back in 2016 I could pay it yearly…