IE 9 BOMB

[Soundguy]

bought new from bestbuy, best i can tell, an un opened, un returned, non display model, as it did all expected startup and setup routines that a first time boot mght be expected to do.

yea i know.. these things CAN be rested.. but.

Only issue I have had was i had to send it back to asus for a warranty defect for the lcd screen.. it just quit, though video output from monitor port worked.

they said back it up and send it in, I'd either get:

1, my old one back as is, but working
2, my old one back, wiped and reset as when purchased
3, a refurbished one, wiped and reset as when purchased
4, a new one ( don't hold breath ).

as best I can tell, i got #1, as all mys stuff was on there.. though, again.. I understand that they could have cloned my drive into a refurb unit too...

not a yardsale or ebay or craigslist purchase..e tc.

no, after checking, ie9 no longer shows up on the updater screen.. interestingly enough, about 32mb of other updates, that I had applied , in the same set of sessions with the 19mb ie9, are listed either.. and my rollback would have predated those too,.. curious as to why those are not listed. nor are any ie8 updates, of which, there were a few listed, but i did not choose them originally as I had checked the box for 9.

curious ??

 

[MossRoad]

I'd call it an update burp and be done with it. Be happy you were able to back out of it... unless, of course, you have a bunch of free time and enjoy a good mystery.

 

[MasseyWV]

Most of us here, I assume are adults and can bump chests publically and then go our ways.

My feelings weren't hurt in the slightest and I'm sorry if you got mad because I blocked you but I have better things to do than to argue over nothing. Yes, we are adults and at least some of us choose to act like it.

 

[Soundguy]

I'd call it an update burp and be done with it. Be happy you were able to back out of it... unless, of course, you have a bunch of free time and enjoy a good mystery.

aside from doing the dxdiag and getting the info.. and checking the update screen to see what was available.. I've left it alone and moved on.

I've seen my share of burps on all sorts of software over the years.. microsoft and other..

usually stays a mystery unless I have to get it working and trudge thru.. in this case.. I don't

 

[KubotainNH]

The AT used an 80286 chip, which at first was running at a scorching 6 mghz and then 8 mghz PC and XT was 8088 CPU running at 4.77 mghz. Is this like pointing out a typeo? :laughing: I have an IBM ruler from the AT announce day.

Gracious, the PC 1 was released 31 years ago. Seems like yesterday....

An OS should not fail when updating an application.

Later,
Dan

Yep, you're right. That AT was fast for it's day but a big hunk of metal. My first PC (not including a C64) was an XT. Eventually I got a 20meg hard drive for it and modem. Connected up to some BBN's, I think that's the correct acronym. A lot has happened in 22+ years. So the 8086 must have been in something else I had to repair often. Those are old memories that are a bit blurred.

 

[Soundguy]

My feelings weren't hurt in the slightest and I'm sorry if you got mad because I blocked you but I have better things to do than to argue over nothing. Yes, we are adults and at least some of us choose to act like it.

me? mad at someone putting me on ignore? Surely you jest.. My ignore account is overflowwing with participants..

I suggested you put me on ignore, if i was bothering you. .. though it's not my intent to specifically poke ya...

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Yep, you're right. That AT was fast for it's day but a big hunk of metal. My first PC (not including a C64) was an XT. Eventually I got a 20meg hard drive for it and modem. Connected up to some BBN's, I think that's the correct acronym. A lot has happened in 22+ years. So the 8086 must have been in something else I had to repair often. Those are old memories that are a bit blurred.

the 8086 replaced the 8088.. thus the x86 family began.. then the 286, 386, 486, and then intel jumped to a named chip .. perhaps for copyright reasons.. I believe a few people went on with a 586/686 'style' .. or k5/k6 nomenclature.. etc...

back in the late 80's and early 90's I ran a bulletin board system.. ( BBS ) good old multi-line dial in systems. the days of being s SysOp..

soundguy

 

[pacerron]

aside from doing the dxdiag and getting the info.. and checking the update screen to see what was available.. I've left it alone and moved on.

I've seen my share of burps on all sorts of software over the years.. microsoft and other..

usually stays a mystery unless I have to get it working and trudge thru.. in this case.. I don't

Sounds like we can all get back to exercising for a healthy heart instead of too much browsing for a flabby gut on TBN!
If you ever get a black screen again try the FN + combinations. A lot of times
a slip of the fingers can put you on external monitor.

 

[Soundguy]

this one was for sure a failure of the lcd... asus tech supt requires an online diag / chat at their help site, then elevates it to a phone call if it warrants it.

on this one.. lcd just flat died.. .. though external port could be made to work... so it wan't a video section death.. just the plug in screen module in the backpanel.

 

[dmccarty]

Yep, you're right. That AT was fast for it's day but a big hunk of metal. My first PC (not including a C64) was an XT. Eventually I got a 20meg hard drive for it and modem. Connected up to some BBN's, I think that's the correct acronym. A lot has happened in 22+ years. So the 8086 must have been in something else I had to repair often. Those are old memories that are a bit blurred.

It WAS along time ago. I really did not realize HOW long ago it was until I saw your post. Then I realized how long ago it really was. It just seems like yesterday....

I think the acronym was BBS. We have a privately run website that covers our county and for some reason part of the name is BBS. I guess I need to ask the owner just how long the website has been around. :laughing:

Later,
Dan

 

[KubotainNH]

I forget what order the 808x's were in. I got more involved starting with the 286 but heavily in the 386sx. The company I worked for at that time was a component level repair shop. We fixed Data General laptops with 386sx-16 chips. They were cool when we first saw them. Was neat to watch the processors evolve. The 486dx4 chips seemed to be a big jump at the time. Time marches on. Seems like not that long ago until I realize my 18 year old wasn't in the picture yet. Remember 360k 5.25" floppy disks, 8" disks and tape punch machines....

 

[Soundguy]

I used to play with old boxes.. stuff with old Z80's ( upright vido games and such.. timex.. etc.. ) and of course the 6400/64000 motorola proc's

one of my favs was an old cpm machine back in 79 on an 8088. upgraded from that to a msdos box.. had basic on rom.. from there a sperry with an extended memory card, and a perstore hdd controller.. took those old mfm and rll drive up quite a bit in space!

had a nac laptop with a v30 proc ( upgrade to an 8086... v20 was upgrade to an 8088 ).. had an external drive port.. I found a couple 8" floppies at a college yard sale and butchered an external drive cable and used drivparam to make dos access that thing..

did near the same with a bernouli box ( spelling? )

ahh.. the days of old iron...

was in a club of guys that moded vic20/48/c64 machines. you could overclock them, add in rs232 serial port.. could run 2 1541 drives and 2 sd1001 drives add in another SID chip for pseudo stereo sound.. a fan and reset button were popular adds after overlocking.

back in the day we were easilly beating XT machines running programs in basic on a moded c64. I had a timex sinclair with a 16k ram pack, and a small 4" black and white tv for a video monitor.. plus a micro cassette feck for a tape drive... that was the coolest lil thing. You could run it off 2 6v lantern batteries seriesd to 12v.. monitor tape, tv and all..

ahh.. memories... having to use debug to setup a large drive using a program on the controller card..

bck then.. if an upgrade failed.. you kinda expected it.. and pulled out the monster stack of floppies.. or the jumbo tapes...

 

[dmccarty]

I forget what order the 808x's were in. I got more involved starting with the 286 but heavily in the 386sx. The company I worked for at that time was a component level repair shop. We fixed Data General laptops with 386sx-16 chips. They were cool when we first saw them. Was neat to watch the processors evolve. The 486dx4 chips seemed to be a big jump at the time. Time marches on. Seems like not that long ago until I realize my 18 year old wasn't in the picture yet. Remember 360k 5.25" floppy disks, 8" disks and tape punch machines....

The other posts about the AT and the CPU got me thinking about history. Computer history. A guy walked in at that moment and we started talking about the computers we had used. Next thing I know we are looking at EBAY to see if a Pet Commodore 2001 is for sale. Danged if there was one! The first PC, errr, micro computer, I programed. There were at least two versions and EBAY has the first version with a chicklet keyboard and built in tape drive. The one I used had 4K, yes 4K, of memory. The later version we had came with a full size keyboard and the tape drive was attached but hit had 16K of memory! Woo Hoo! :laughing:

I think the 8086's were first followed by the 8088 but for some reason I forget, IBM used the 8086 chips in the PC 1 and XT boxes. Likely supply reasons but I really do not remember. I tried a Vic20? in my PC 1 but it did not work. :laughing:

I have every PC I have ever owned. The Commodore 2001 was about $110 last time I checked. I might buy it for the memories.

Now, if I could find the teletype printers we used in school, the ones with the round keys, and paper tapes as well as the FIRST IBM portable computer I used, the 5100. I would seriously think about buying them. The 5100 weighed about 50-60 pounds, had a built in B&W monitor that was about 4-5 inches in size, had a tape drive, I think QIC, and two programming languages available at the flick of a switch. Basic or APL. :laughing:

A stack of 80 column cards was found under the raised floor at work. I took a handful. Someone tossed a bunch of old 8 inch floppies in the recycle bin. I took them too along with a Laser Disk. Those things are HISTORY. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Later,
Dan

 

[Soundguy]

a vic 20 is a commode product. a NEC v20 is an 8088 upgrade. 8088 predated the x86 architecture.

soundguy

 

[dmccarty]

a vic 20 is a commode product. a NEC v20 is an 8088 upgrade. 8088 predated the x86 architecture.

soundguy

The V20 was supposed to work in the PC 1. I had a friend that got it to work but it did not work for me.

Later,
Dan

 

[Soundguy]

every 8088 or 8086 I had got a v20 or 30 slapped in it.. I never hit a snag. as I recall.. i even put one in that old CPM machine too.. pre- mess-dos

 

[Scooby074]

in order.

Vic20
C 64 + modem+dot matrix+tape drive+ 5.25 floppy drive !!!
Vtech 8086
Home built P3 500mhz Win ME :thumbdown: > XP:thumbsup:
Home built P4 Northwood 3.2GHz ~4GB XP Pro

Current:
Home Built Core i7 920 2.67Ghz, 6 GB DDR3, 60GB OCZ Vertex SSD, 500GB WD Caviar Black, 1TB WD Caviar Green (dump), 2TB Seagate GoFlex External, Win7 Ultimate

 

[KubotainNH]

I used to play with old boxes.. stuff with old Z80's ( upright vido games and such.. timex.. etc.. ) and of course the 6400/64000 motorola proc's

one of my favs was an old cpm machine back in 79 on an 8088. upgraded from that to a msdos box.. had basic on rom.. from there a sperry with an extended memory card, and a perstore hdd controller.. took those old mfm and rll drive up quite a bit in space!

Man, some of these old terms really shovel off some dust in my brain. In a couple weeks it will all be back there again which is a good thing. The old stuff is interesting to talk about but I wouldn't want to go back to it. Laserdisc, lol...talk about a big disk but it was a step to the future. I like my Ipod, USB, MicroSD cards and Roku2 boxes.

 

[mostly_gas]

MS updates wont kill a machine that isnt compromised with either authorized or unauthorized (and likely unknown) third party software.

You may now continue your $$(*S*# Microsoft rant.

I had it kill w2k w SCSI drives running just OS and AutoCad. Fortunately loaded SP4 on test machine first, no problems during install just could not find HD on reboot. Called MS. yes the tech replies there are issues w/ SP4 and SCSI although no warning on SP4. 3 months later MS calls and says safe for SCSI. Meanwhile I had reloaded test machine from scratch and sure enough no problems, no change in OS, apps, or drivers. When I started computer support, 5 dos6 machines running Autocad, SystemV unix on database server and MicroVax running Micro VMS 4 (I think).

SG had similar experience w/IE 8 on old laptop. after update to IE 8 it would crash w/BSD. went back to IE 7, no problems. Use Firefox so not having IE 8 not big issue just lost time tracking it down and uninstalling IE8

 

[Reg]

Its not "calling anyone out" when there are MILLIONS of installations that update correctly.

The problem is you cant write an update to cover ALL possible permutations of both hardware and software.. hence the strong recommendation to disable ALL 3rd party software, particularly during a major update. If you want a tightly controlled environment where almost everything is controlled by the OS maker, Buy Apple.Windows openness is the reason that a PC is half the price of an Apple product.

Given the sheer numbers of machines out there and all their respective configurations, the updates are overwhelmingly successful. But those huge numbers of installs, mean that there will be the occasional failure. These failures are usually caused by something unforeseen.. such as installed programs or hardware or trying to update a corrupt OS installation.

No.
and yes it IS possible and it IS done.

The number of microslop installations is essentially irrelevant, it is the number of permutations that matters and the open source base (by its very nature) has a far greater diversity of apps, plug-ins, add-ons, etc.
They don't have any "Seal of approval", but they work very well and together.

First level response answers "not supported" and "too complex" don't belong in this thread.
IE9 is junk, most of what MS peddles is junk.
They don't CARE if it doesn't work, they just waive the "not supported by us" flag.

Ya think maybe STANDARDS are adhered to in some places and not in others ?
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