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95XL883
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It might be a type of chicory but either round up or 2 4d should kill it. Maybe your herbicides are old or in too weak of dilution?
95XL883
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Are you using a surfuctant? if the leaves are waxy, herbicide without surfuctant will just run off and not be absorbed by the plant. Liquid dish soap is supposed to work but I haven't tried it; I just use one that I bought at a nursery.
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jack707
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Maybe I should use it straight! maybe the water is dilution it to much that it doesn't work. As far as being old I bought them this summer.
95XL883
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Since you bought it this summer, the chemicals are most likely good. Did you buy Round Up and then dilute it? It has been years since I bought Round Up but I thought it was already diluted. You might check the directions but you probably need to add a surfuctant/dish soap.
I now buy glyphosate concentrate and cut it to slightly over 2%. (The instructions say 2% should kill most any grass or weed in the fileld.) For the concentrate I bought, I mix 7 ounces to 2.5 gallons of water and it has killed whatever I sprayed as long as I add a surfuctant.
I now buy glyphosate concentrate and cut it to slightly over 2%. (The instructions say 2% should kill most any grass or weed in the fileld.) For the concentrate I bought, I mix 7 ounces to 2.5 gallons of water and it has killed whatever I sprayed as long as I add a surfuctant.
Dr_Zinj
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Dude. First picture is a fine growing example of a dandelion!
Second picture has more dandelions, plus a couple of Common Plantains, not to mention the grass blades.
Personally, I like dandelions in the yard. The flowers are pretty. It's fun to blow the seed heads in the air. You can make dandelion wine from the flowers. You can pick the new leaves for salads, or cook them for a vegetable. You can dig up the roots, dry, roast, and grind them into a coffee substitute. There's even a company in Europe that has bred a variety of dandelion to produce a latex usable in automotive tires as a substitute for rubber.
Or you can just get a small hand digger and remove them that way. I did that a couple of times when I was in military housing and never had much trouble preventing them from coming back.
Wikipedia has it that Plantago major (broadleaf plantain, common plantain or greater plantain) is a species of plantago, family Plantaginaceae. The plant is native to most of Europe and northern and central Asia, but has widely naturalised elsewhere in the world.
Plantago major is one of the most abundant and widely distributed medicinal crops in the world. A poultice of the leaves can be applied to wounds, stings, and sores in order to facilitate healing and prevent infection. The active chemical constituents are aucubin (an anti-microbial agent), allantoin (which stimulates cellular growth and tissue regeneration), and mucilage (which reduces pain and discomfort). Plantain has astringent properties, and a tea made from the leaves can be ingested to treat diarrhea and soothe raw internal membranes.
Broadleaf plantain is also a highly nutritious wild edible, that is high in calcium and vitamins A, C, and K. The young, tender leaves can be eaten raw, and the older, stringier leaves can be boiled in stews and eaten.
Second picture has more dandelions, plus a couple of Common Plantains, not to mention the grass blades.
Personally, I like dandelions in the yard. The flowers are pretty. It's fun to blow the seed heads in the air. You can make dandelion wine from the flowers. You can pick the new leaves for salads, or cook them for a vegetable. You can dig up the roots, dry, roast, and grind them into a coffee substitute. There's even a company in Europe that has bred a variety of dandelion to produce a latex usable in automotive tires as a substitute for rubber.
Or you can just get a small hand digger and remove them that way. I did that a couple of times when I was in military housing and never had much trouble preventing them from coming back.
Wikipedia has it that Plantago major (broadleaf plantain, common plantain or greater plantain) is a species of plantago, family Plantaginaceae. The plant is native to most of Europe and northern and central Asia, but has widely naturalised elsewhere in the world.
Plantago major is one of the most abundant and widely distributed medicinal crops in the world. A poultice of the leaves can be applied to wounds, stings, and sores in order to facilitate healing and prevent infection. The active chemical constituents are aucubin (an anti-microbial agent), allantoin (which stimulates cellular growth and tissue regeneration), and mucilage (which reduces pain and discomfort). Plantain has astringent properties, and a tea made from the leaves can be ingested to treat diarrhea and soothe raw internal membranes.
Broadleaf plantain is also a highly nutritious wild edible, that is high in calcium and vitamins A, C, and K. The young, tender leaves can be eaten raw, and the older, stringier leaves can be boiled in stews and eaten.
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jack707
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I don't add water to round up I was looking for a weed killer that had glyphosate but no one had any so I have to buy it thru mail order I can get 41% glyphosate.
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I agree with Dr_Zinj. Both are edible. You can make a very nice plantain tonic by putting a few leaves with pineapple juice or chunks into a blender. Maybe add a little bit of yogurt. Keep in frig.
I wouldn't kill them. Enjoy them.
Ralph
I wouldn't kill them. Enjoy them.
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jack707
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Not for me I'll pass.
Egon
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Put some straight nitrogen fertilizer on them if you really want them gone.
charlz
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I agree, more like chicory than dandelion. You can tank mix 2,4,d and glyphosate together for a 'total kill' type mixture. IIRC (will have to check my jugs where I keep it written) I use 1.5oz/gallon for 2,4,d and 2oz/gallon for glyphosate. I either use them mixed or the 2,4,d by itself when trying to get broad-leaf out of grass. Some broad-leaf weeds you need to bump up the 2,4,d like when trying to get clover or Black Medic out of your lawn 4ounces per gallon knocks the stuff back without burning my lawn.
Clover etc. you definitely need a surfacant, should be able to buy a small bottle of 'crop oil' or 'agricultural oil'. It doesn't take much, 1/2 teaspoon per gallon (there are 6 teaspoons in an ounce).
Clover etc. you definitely need a surfacant, should be able to buy a small bottle of 'crop oil' or 'agricultural oil'. It doesn't take much, 1/2 teaspoon per gallon (there are 6 teaspoons in an ounce).
MMagis
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That first pic looks a lot more like dandelion than chicory. Unfortunately, I feel like an expert in both. Regardless, both are easily killed by 2,4D or gly. Not sure why you’re having trouble, but keep trying.
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jack707
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I'm going to try both 2 4 d and glyphosate together I'm just sick of all these weeds! I live inside the woods when I mow the grass you wanna cut grass not weeds.
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READ AND FOLLOW THE LABEL ON EVERY PESTICIDE YOU USE
Pesticides will work properly if used according to the label. The manufacturers spend millions of dollars doing research to find out how their products work best. And what they find, is what they put on the label.
Using 41% Roundup (which is glyphosate) straight out of the jug without diluting it as the label directs you, will not work as good as if you go by the label. The reason this is true is because glyphosate needs to translocate through the plant in order to kill the entire plant, roots and all. If you use it straight, it will burn the part of the plant that it contacts, and will not translocate, therefore will not kill the entire plant.
I suggest you take a sample of the weed to your county agent, or send him the pics from this thread, and ask them to identify it, and they can recommend a herbicide to treat it.
Pesticides will work properly if used according to the label. The manufacturers spend millions of dollars doing research to find out how their products work best. And what they find, is what they put on the label.
Using 41% Roundup (which is glyphosate) straight out of the jug without diluting it as the label directs you, will not work as good as if you go by the label. The reason this is true is because glyphosate needs to translocate through the plant in order to kill the entire plant, roots and all. If you use it straight, it will burn the part of the plant that it contacts, and will not translocate, therefore will not kill the entire plant.
I suggest you take a sample of the weed to your county agent, or send him the pics from this thread, and ask them to identify it, and they can recommend a herbicide to treat it.
k0ua
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I can vouch for that. Even not diluting 41% enough will cause this burning of the leaves without killing the plant.
Cpjlube
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If you aren't spraying in a crop area the lawn chemicals like Triplett are very good at killing most broadleaf weeds. Glyphosate should kill it no problem. As the previous posters said. Mix it properly to completely kill the offending plant.
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jack707
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I always use water except in roundup that what the direction call for I'll get this under control soon.
