I was considering an LS tractor package until.......

aczlan · Mar 6, 2019

1930 said:
I dont know when it happened but I wasnt aware of tractors having the plastic in them, I thought only the small home versions were doing this.

I have zero interest in the plastic, that was enough for me, I do collision work for a living, I see too much plastic as it is.

Not to bash the brand but there were alot of things I did notice that I thought screamed save a dollar.

I havent signed any papers yet but I was approved today for the Kubota and it looks like Im going that way.

I hate to break it to you, but we have three Kubota's and they all have plastic on them... What model Kubota are you looking at?

Aaron Z

tomplum · Mar 6, 2019

As an XJ owner, I've seen the gentleman's video. Many people getting into this size tractor are newbies at what keeps them rolling. I didn't feel that he was being misleading, though some things were just odd and easily things that are part of the experience of owning farm equipment. You WILL have to be watchful, make adjustments and repairs as none of these are fined tuned as a Lexus and are not used generally in a friendly environment. His XJ wasn't a lemon. He under bought for his needs. He understands the power of social media. I watched one of his recent videos on the replacement tractor and sure can sense his frustration though. You see regen issues on tractors of any color. They seem like nice folks and I hope they get it worked out. To the OP I wish you a good ride on whatever you decide on. I assume that there isn't a tractor out there that will generally treat you well if you return the favor. Researching an item like a tractor can be daunting. This forum is a good place to start. Plas62 was an XJ owner that blew me away with what one of these can do. Likewise Kubota and Deere have their champions here and elsewhere too. The wife made the final decision as it is really her ride. Her reasoning on the backhoe was the swivel seats were uncomfortable and likes the separate seat. I like the SSQA and some days the forks and bucket get swapped around a half a dozen times on a work day. I also like the larger rear wheels than the base models of a Deere or Kubota for the creek flats. Pricing was about 19 if I recall for the TLB.

1930 · Mar 7, 2019

aczlan said:
I hate to break it to you, but we have three Kubota's and they all have plastic on them... What model Kubota are you looking at?

Aaron Z

I know the cowl on mine is plastic, as far as main body parts I think that is all. 2501

1930 · Mar 7, 2019

aczlan said:
I hate to break it to you, but we have three Kubota's and they all have plastic on them... What model Kubota are you looking at?

Aaron Z

I know the cowl on mine is plastic, as far as main body parts I think that is all. L2501

BAP · Mar 7, 2019

Over my lifetime I have owned or used the following brands for farming or personal use, Case, Case Construction, Case-IH, International, Ford, New Holland, John Deere, John Deere Construction, Claas, Caterpillar, Kubota. There has been some great tractors or equipment in all brands and there has been some that have plain sucked and was glad to get rid of. Sometimes you just shake your head at some poor designs and poor reliability of a certain piece of equipment. Others, are so well built that you run them forever. The people who think that “Their Brand” of Tractor makes no tractors with problems or lemons have their heads in the sand. The people on here who it get the most upset if someone says something bad about their brand, are also usually the ones that are most secretive about their location and their experience. Every company out there makes some great products and some poor ones that are hard to keep going. Nobody is 100% perfect on all their models. Each company has models that have become thorns in their sides. I currently own a Kubota and really like it. I know that they have some models that they have had issues with particularly the B3350. The reason I went with Kubota is the dealer is 4 miles down the road, has great service, been in business for 60+/- years and are good people. Over the last 10-15 years, some of the newer foreign brands have established dealers around but most of them last a couple years and are gone with the new tractor owners without any support.

fried1765 · Mar 7, 2019

Diggin It said:
I don't do videos. Ever.

I cannot imagine why anyone would not "do videos".

There is always the potential to learn,...... even if you don't completely agree with the presentation.

atsah · Mar 7, 2019

fried1765 said:
I cannot imagine why anyone would not "do videos".

There is always something to learn,...... even if you don't completely agree with the presentation.

I have saved so much time and money just watching others do something I need to do, I have no idea why so many people take the time to post video's of fixing things or whatever it might be but it sure is helpful.

Video's have made it possible for me to buy parts for things online, (washing machine, anything really) and fix it without calling anyone. Not ALL people that post video's do it well but for the most part they do a good job and watching them before you attempt to do something it valuable.

Tennsawdust · Mar 7, 2019

tomplum said:
As an XJ owner, I've seen the gentleman's video. Many people getting into this size tractor are newbies at what keeps them rolling. I didn't feel that he was being misleading, though some things were just odd and easily things that are part of the experience of owning farm equipment. You WILL have to be watchful, make adjustments and repairs as none of these are fined tuned as a Lexus and are not used generally in a friendly environment. His XJ wasn't a lemon. He under bought for his needs. He understands the power of social media. I watched one of his recent videos on the replacement tractor and sure can sense his frustration though. You see regen issues on tractors of any color. They seem like nice folks and I hope they get it worked out. To the OP I wish you a good ride on whatever you decide on. I assume that there isn't a tractor out there that will generally treat you well if you return the favor. Researching an item like a tractor can be daunting. This forum is a good place to start. Plas62 was an XJ owner that blew me away with what one of these can do. Likewise Kubota and Deere have their champions here and elsewhere too. The wife made the final decision as it is really her ride. Her reasoning on the backhoe was the swivel seats were uncomfortable and likes the separate seat. I like the SSQA and some days the forks and bucket get swapped around a half a dozen times on a work day. I also like the larger rear wheels than the base models of a Deere or Kubota for the creek flats. Pricing was about 19 if I recall for the TLB.

I would agree that the fellow in the video bought way too little tractor for what he was trying to do. The XJ isn't a bad tractor for someone that only needs a smaller tractor. Yes, it has a lot of plastic on it, but that is also reflected in the price. It isn't as though anyone is trying to hide that point. I personally don't like that much plastic, but at the same time my pickup has plastic bed-sides and it hasn't been a problem over the 18 years I've owned it. Mechanically and footprint-wise the XJ has some things going for it verses other subcompact 25 hp tractors. Having a longer and wider footprint and those larger rear tires could be a real advantage if you are operating it on more rugged terrain.

Diggin It · Mar 7, 2019

One of the main reasons I stopped watching TV is because they spent too little time on things I wanted to know and too much time on things I didn't. They tend to emphasize what THEY want you to see and gloss over everything else. From the comments, that appears to be the case here. Apparently the guy is on a rant without really seeming to know how the machine is supposed to work.

As stated before, I prefer written information that I can read at will, coupled with static pictures I can magnify and/or crop as necessary, then print and take out to the machines with me. I can also go back over it as often as I need to without having to watch all the irrelevant stuff again, trying to zero in on the few bits I need.

lilranch2001 · Mar 7, 2019

I guess based on your commentsyou are so inexperienced with vid's that you do not understand the scroll functions.....

Diggin It · Mar 7, 2019

^^ I've used FF/Rew and Pause long before the web. Way back to the first VCRs which were mostly black and white. None of that changes the fact that the content is not necessarily informative in the areas I usually need them to, nor are they always unbiased. And they still aren't accompanied by a written transcript to print out.

lilranch2001 · Mar 7, 2019

Don't get me wrong, I am not in favor or pushing an agenda to support a huge liberal company like youtube, but there is a value there that many of us do use and enjoy.

OK, at this point all I can say is your loss.

shooterdon · Mar 7, 2019

Do you guys realize that in about 6 months, Diggin It has posted over 2200 times on this site alone? He does not have time for videos!!! LOL

Anyway, I wish I could view more YouTube but I have limited internet and need to conserve video time. Agree with others....I find them useful

lilranch2001 · Mar 7, 2019

wow, no I didn't.......

9 years and I m only almost to 6K, I must watch way to many vids!

atsah · Mar 7, 2019

lilranch2001 said:
I am not in favor or pushing an agenda to support a huge liberal company like youtube,

You have no idea what you just did..:laughing:

jdom84 · Mar 7, 2019

tomplum said:
As an XJ owner, I've seen the gentleman's video. Many people getting into this size tractor are newbies at what keeps them rolling. I didn't feel that he was being misleading, though some things were just odd and easily things that are part of the experience of owning farm equipment. You WILL have to be watchful, make adjustments and repairs as none of these are fined tuned as a Lexus and are not used generally in a friendly environment. His XJ wasn't a lemon. He under bought for his needs. He understands the power of social media. I watched one of his recent videos on the replacement tractor and sure can sense his frustration though. You see regen issues on tractors of any color. They seem like nice folks and I hope they get it worked out. To the OP I wish you a good ride on whatever you decide on. I assume that there isn't a tractor out there that will generally treat you well if you return the favor. Researching an item like a tractor can be daunting. This forum is a good place to start. Plas62 was an XJ owner that blew me away with what one of these can do. Likewise Kubota and Deere have their champions here and elsewhere too. The wife made the final decision as it is really her ride. Her reasoning on the backhoe was the swivel seats were uncomfortable and likes the separate seat. I like the SSQA and some days the forks and bucket get swapped around a half a dozen times on a work day. I also like the larger rear wheels than the base models of a Deere or Kubota for the creek flats. Pricing was about 19 if I recall for the TLB.

Good little write-up Tom.

These are great little tractors considering they were the smallest and cheapest tractor LS offered before the MT125. I have yet to see any major complaints about its NH boomer 24/25 cousin.
I have had minor issues with the xj2025 but they all have been simple fixes and nothing has kept me from using it. The loader and 3 point can almost lift as much as it weighs as long as you have ballast.

I remember this guys video... He might not be purposely misleading but much of of what he says is ignorance!

"everything on this tractor is plastic" - The fenders and hood... just like JD, but floorboard is metal.
the hydraulic hose he pointed at was installed wrong. It is not a "hydrostat" hose, its a loader hydraulic hose.
the pins for the three point shaft. YEP they get bent but a simple lynch pin fixes that issue.
At the factory set idle of 1000 RPM the engine vibrates. Bump it up to 1300+ and they are pretty much gone.
Dipstick issue has a recall.

Who fills their loader bucket without any ballast and then complains about the wheels spinning?

It might not pull a disk of unknown size??? but I have a 60" tiller and this tractor pulls it fine at full depth and I have hard clay dirt.

I have also had issues with:
Pickup trucks
High end Fifthwheel
3 point attachments
other vehicles
12k dump trailer
my house
the property my house sits on....
etc... I should start making videos on everything I have issues with...

However, even though this guy didn't know what he was talking about, he did say the xj was a "decent" tractor for small acreage and didn't seem like he was trying to bash it but once he got the XG3025... it was all down hill from there and I haven't seen any of his videos on the XR3135. It also sounded like his dealer was doing some shady stuff... like using steering linkage in the pto gearbox...

1930 · Mar 7, 2019

Diggin It said:
^^ I've used FF/Rew and Pause long before the web. Way back to the first VCRs which were mostly black and white. None of that changes the fact that the content is not necessarily informative in the areas I usually need them to, nor are they always unbiased. And they still aren't accompanied by a written transcript to print out.

I do not watch TV either, I have no use for whats on. You may want to consider u tube though, at least you have a choice to watch what you wish to watch and more valuable information than the boob tube for sure.

I get it though I guess either way

atsah · Mar 7, 2019

Don't know how we got from videos to TV.. I don't have cable TV either, I have the internet and sometimes watch Netflix once in a while but no TV.

Hope you're Kubota works out for you, I read in you're other post you are going to go take a look before you sign, wise decision considering you saw rust you didn't like.. Like anything else, some dealerships will have honest people and some don't..

Jchonline · Mar 7, 2019

I do feel sorry for the Youtuber, that has to be frustrating. It also sounds like there is more to the story. Dealer issues maybe? Not sure but these are well documented problems in his videos. We also have to remember this is just 1 person and 1 tractor. There are many happy LS owners out there.