I think i broke something....

ritcheyvs · Feb 21, 2016

JoelD said:
Always fun to fix but if warranty let deAler fix likely less frustrating in the end

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Did the dealer install the third-function valve? If not and if that valve is the cause, he may say it's not his problem.

s219 · Feb 21, 2016

BigCountry1689 said:
The grapple is functioning normally as of this morning. The only thing I noticed was that when I closed it it would spring back open about 4-5 inches. I will take a couple of pics of the plugs on the side of the third function to maybe provide some clarification. It seemed to me that they went all the way in as there was no resistance.

That is not "functioning normally". You need to take the grapple out of the loop because it's killing flow to everything else.

BigCountry1689 · Feb 21, 2016

I have disconected the grapple and I will be removing the main lines and coupling them tomorrow to see if that resolves the issue as recomended. I was only stating that the grapple is not randomly opening like it was. At this point point nothing really is working correctly. But I think the third function has done something to the system because this all started when that plug started leaking. I have called the dealer and left a message as they are not open Sunday but at least they will know there is a problem. They intalled the third function so I would assume any faults would be covered by them. I am willing to try most anything that does not require major wrenching as that would defeat the purpose of the warranty. I have several suggestions that I will be trying tomorrow mainly diconnecting the third function. I also will be calling EA to ask them for input on the third function. But thank you for all input.

BigCountry1689 · Feb 21, 2016

Does anyone know what the warranty is on the third function. Since I did'nt install it, I did not recieve any literature. I unfortunately do not know anything about hydraulics or how they work as shown with my questions.

MinnesotaEric · Feb 21, 2016

BigCountry1689 said:
Does anyone know what the warranty is on the third function. Since I did'nt install it, I did not recieve any literature. I unfortunately do not know anything about hydraulics or how they work as shown with my questions.

I'd like to know if you have a third function, or a diverter valve.

A diverter you push a button and it diverts flow from one function to another function using your joystick. A third function you have two buttons that do their own thing in addition to the joystick functions.

They work and are mounted in completely different places and this matters in order to puzzle out what is going on.

Springing back means that something is blocking flow and a ram is working against residual pressure. The springing is likely pressure against a relief that is accumulated in rubber hydraulic hoses expanding a little bit.

Did you get all of the old o-ring out when you replaced it?

And can you take a photo of your valve and share with us its location?

BigCountry1689 · Feb 21, 2016

It is a rocker style switch that when you push up it opens and down it closes. The o-ring was still intact when i removed the screw just broken. So I am assumig I remove the whole thing. The way it sits the ring is on the outer flange and the screw sets in so I dont think the o-ring actually could enter the unit. I will take a picture and post.

BigCountry1689 · Feb 21, 2016

This is the link for the valve I purchased.

3rd function auxilliary hydraulic kits for all brands of tractors and loaders! purchase online, free shipping within 1,000 miles!!

MinnesotaEric · Feb 21, 2016

BigCountry1689 said:
This is the link for the valve I purchased.

3rd function auxilliary hydraulic kits for all brands of tractors and loaders! purchase online, free shipping within 1,000 miles!!

That is a third function and not a diverter valve.

It is an open center type and the double-acting electric over hydraulic valve is mounted between your joystick's power beyond port and your three point.

Thankfully, you should be able to first unplug the electrical connector on the valve and then unscrew the electromagnets that make the valve work and inspect it to confirm it isn't stuck and moves freely.

Watch the video to learn how these little buggers come apart and work.

BigCountry1689 · Feb 21, 2016

Yes that is the exact valve mounted under the tractor. In the morning I will dis-assemble and check it.

Thanks for the video and help.

MinnesotaEric · Feb 21, 2016

BigCountry1689 said:
Yes that is the exact valve mounted under the tractor. In the morning I will dis-assemble and check it.

Thanks for the video and help.

Remember to keep it clean. and have some hydro fluid around for assembly lube. What you're looking for is a bit of junk stuck in the valve itself or obvious binding any drag on the valve from the o-rings sealing it should be overcome by the centering springs. Before disassembly, rock the joystick around to make certain no residual pressure is in the system.