I Still Hate My Tractor

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   / I Still Hate My Tractor #441  
Are tractors covered under the lemon law? If so, that could be an option if the turbo does not correct the problem.
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #442  
I'm someone that has been following this thread all along but hasn't commented. Fred, the way this thread started, I can see why some people jumped on you about adding a turbo. After seeing some of the latter posts, its obvious you have some fabrication skills much beyond most members, maybe even equal with 4-shorts. I wish I had that skill and equipment and time available. Good luck on the rest of the turbo install and looking forward to the final results.
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #443  
Just for reference, here is a turbo mounted on a 3 cyl Kubota

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#444  
Lemon law covers tractors here as long as it was bought non-commercial.
Yes I made some mad the way I posted, maybe I should have started the thread in the Deere forum.
Either way the turbo goes on and thanks for the help everyone.

Obviously Big Krank you are a wealth of information about Kubota engines. Can you comment on the size of the banjo bolt orifice for the turbo oiling? Also have you seen Kubota blocks that have piston cooling jets installed or oiling holes in the connecting rod big end to cool the pistons?
How about torque/power of some of your engine builds?

Thank-You! Fred
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #445  
Can't remember hole size. No jets, smaller pistons such as in littler Kubotas get rid of heat faster than big pistons which should have cooling jets.

Last 68 cube 3 cyl had over 80 hp (25 stock), center cylinder got pretty hot, 1700 degree normal exhaust temp but only for short runs. Up to 60# boost, tryed to limit to 30-45. Those pics don't show the more extensive water/alcohol injection system added later either as well as wastegate system mods.

I have known direct injected 75 cube Yanmars (not stock obviously) make 200hp on dyno but they like breaking in half between cylinders.

I assume you will only run 5-10# and just want altitude compensation or similar ( I don't know how high Hooterville is). I don't see much of an issue.
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #446  
Bigkrank, that turbo looks as big as the one off my Dodge PU with a Cummins. Pretty cool!
 
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#447  
Yes cool and thanks.
I ALMOST used a VNT15 off a 2002 TDI but couldn't figure out a good simple way to control the variable vanes without a major mess of vacuum lines, a vacuum pump and ECM to control the vanes. I stuck with super simple. The VW turbo is in full boost (about 2000 mb) by 1800 RPM on a 1.9 liter engine so I figured on a 2 liter it would come on a tad sooner. The good thing about a VNT turbo is you can close the vanes and have it act as an engine brake.

Have to make this AN line for the oil supply. I got blood running down my hand after 3 tries, guess I should have bought the tools.

Back to it, Fred
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #448  
Bigkrank, that turbo looks as big as the one off my Dodge PU with a Cummins. Pretty cool!

Actually out of 8 turbos that we tried that was the smallest one, but it had a twin scroll exhaust wheel and you could launch it less than half open then stomp it and get instant boost.
 
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#449  
Got the feed line made tonight, PITA. Bloody fingers and had to make a tool to get the braided line to start into the nut. I will replace this line once I source the hard line and banjo fittings.
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Enough room under the hood for a muffler of some type. Might be a glasspack from a VW bug not sure yet :)


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Fred

Should smell like a car show in the Spring once I fire it up and get all that fresh paint burned off.
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #450  
Looking good Fred.:thumbsup:
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #451  
One thing that has troubled me is the intent to modify this new machine, run it then if it doesn't work make it look as though no work was ever done to retain warranty coverage or pass it on to an unsuspecting buyer. This approach seems to be more common than I had hoped.

This is what bothers me most about Fred, that is why I commented on the covering of the VIN plate.
Personally I feel if he was a up standing guy he would live by his convictions that he is going to do not harm to that tractor by upgrading it.

In other words
Morals mean something more than mechanical skill
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #452  
live by his convictions that he is going to do not harm to that tractor??
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #453  
yes, that is what I said
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #454  
he sounds quite convinced he is not going to hurt it, why cover his bases by covering the VIN plate, otherwise it seems to me he does not seem to be living by his own convictions
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #456  
Got the feed line made tonight, PITA. Bloody fingers and had to make a tool to get the braided line to start into the nut. I will replace this line once I source the hard line and banjo fittings.
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Enough room under the hood for a muffler of some type. Might be a glasspack from a VW bug not sure yet :)


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Fred

Should smell like a car show in the Spring once I fire it up and get all that fresh paint burned off.

I have made a bunch of lines over the years for race (sprints)cars, a couple wraps of duct tape and cut the hose with a cutoff wheel usually keeps the fraying to a minimum allowing you to get the fitting body screwed on.
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #457  
Oh now I gots it. Tanks. What would we get from seeing the Vin plate.

It is not what we would see, but what Bota would be able to document when he places a warranty claim
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #458  
Ill tell ya what, you buy that damaged engine from him for good money and I will get over it
:drink:
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #459  
Ill tell ya what, you buy that damaged engine from him for good money and I will get over it
:drink:

I also own a Kubota L3940. If his work improves the performance and power, I'll ship my tractor to Fred and pay him to do the same to mine. If it does not work, than I doubt there is any harm done to the engine. Remove turbo and back to factory specs.
 
   / I Still Hate My Tractor #460  
and if he damages the engine and he sells it as if no mods were made to it, I am sure you would put your money up for it as well.

So I assume you are one of the guys who sells a flooded vehicle after a hurricane....
:thumbdown:

NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT IS THERE?
:rolleyes:
 
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