Oil & Fuel i need help!!!!

[dravin21]

got a 2315 that no matter what i do gells up and refuses to run .. overpriced Additives, block heater, new glowplugs and the removeal of a ziptie that was pinching off the fuel line all have helped but temp gets below 23 and its useless .. runs about 15 mins then dies at the bottom of the driveway and sits till i buy degel and clean it out .. and i'm not talking just thick fuel running slow .. i mean like candle wax in places ... i give it the recamended antigell and other gunk, store extra fuel in a heated space and tarp it immedietly after useing it .. or when it dies... its sad that my 40 year old VW starts more faithfully then the new tractor

 

[Kal130]

Have you tried draining the system and getting fuel from somewhere else?

 

[dravin21]

yes 3 times and there is nowhere else within 30 miles that sells diesel .. i miss the older tractors .. fuel tank and lines where above the engine so the block heater thawed them too .. considering makeing a fueltank heater next as i had to do on my old VW rabbit (coiled up heat tape for plumbing taped to the bottom with tin-tape)

 

[2458n]

I use a magnetic type heater stuck under my engine with great success. One of these attached underneath your fuel tank should provide enough warmth to keep even poor fuel from becoming to thick to flow.

 

[Mounted Madness]

I had a problem a week ago with summer diesel. Here in Manitoba, I recently discovered dealers (are legislated to) carry bio-diesel from spring until the end of Sept.

My BX24 started farting and banging and stalled out on me after about 1/2 hour of aggressive snow clearing. I'd topped up the tank with fuel I bought back in Sept. The temp was -20 Celsius or approx 0 Fahrenheit.

A half quart of winter conditioner cleaned out the lines of water, and thinned out the french fry grease.

I can't tell where you're located, but it's possible your fuel dealer(s) still have either summer diesel (if they don't sell much), or due to the temp changes, you (and maybe the dealer) has/have condensation in your lines.

If you're located significantly south and temps below freezing are uncommon, you may have a problem finding the right conditioner. Whatever the case, good luck.

 

[the6shooter]

try using a winter mix of #2 desiel, and kerosene, next rep your fuel filter with a premie baby diaper, whats what I use to use, running a truck in the north country. buy that was 45f, don't laugh it works.
david

 

[the6shooter]

dagnabbit typo's rap with premie diapers.

 

[the6shooter]

45 f below zero

 

[dravin21]

where i live below freezeing is from nov. to april ... and normal snowfall is measured in inches per hour not total most of the time so i need this thing to run with little complaint .. really it should i've run diesels from the 1940's with less trouble then i'm haveing with this thing .. and the cold starting isnt the only problem .. the headlight fell appart and fell out, the plates that hold the steering bent and cause MEGA slop on the steering ... straightend them twice and replaced them but they bend agin within the first 20-30 mins of work even when its the rear snowblower being used and not the front loader, a wire corroded off the ignition switch so i had to solder that back on, the battery randomy goes dead for no reason .. batt. and alt test out fine.. right from the beginning it had problems with fuel flow because a ziptie was put on too tight and pinched off the line from the tank to the pump.... one way or another i've fixed all of its gremlins exept this cold weather nonsence .. been a constant battle for the past 2 1/2 years

 

[Mounted Madness]

45 f below zero

-45F and -45C is freekin' cold. -40 in both scales is the same temp. I worked north of the Arctic circle and windchill and temp would get so cold, the tires could go flat. The bead seal wouldn't seal since the rubber didn't want to flex. The only thing you didn't plug in to keep warm was the snowmobile or something with an electric motor. :laughing:

 

[WilliamTO-35]

While not an answer to your diesel cold weather problem, I do agree that seasonal fuels can cause trouble. Last summer, I started using gasoline I had bought in the winter in my riding mower ( Kohler 14 hp. K321 motor). The gasoline was too volatile for hot summer days, and was boiling in the carburetor, and causing the engine to run rough and stall. I bought some summer gasoline, and the problem disappeared. I later installed triple thickness gaskets under the carburetor mounting flange to help keep the carburetor cooler. I used up the winter gasoline later on in the fall weather without problems.
As for your diesel fuel gelling problem, I would think that the additives truckers use to prevent gelling would work, unless there's water in that fuel. Put a gallon of the diesel fuel into a clear plastic jug, and let it sit for 24 hours someplace where it's above freezing. Water will settle to the bottom. As suggested above, a slight dilution with kerosene is also sometimes used.
You might actually do better trying to use #2 home heating oil, although the local supply of diesel and heating oil may come from the same source. The heating oil may work fine as is, but you could try adding a cetane improver and gel preventative to the heating oil if you encounter diesel knock or gel problems. The "powers that be" do get very upset if you use heating oil without paying the road tax, but as a temporary experiment it might be informative.

 

[ScottW]

I had fuel problems today while snowthrowing after a few weeks of inactivity. After running fine for 15 minutes, the engine just stalled out, and although it would restart fine, it would choke out within a few seconds each time. After a couple false leads from my dealer to diagnose the problem, I finally took off the fuel filter housing and was greeted with a bunch of white goo. I put another filter in, drained the air, and it ran fine. I'll warm the old filter back up, dry it, and save it for future use. Now I need to go get some additive for my 2/3 tank of diesel that is mostly summer fuel. My refueling can is winterized diesel, but the tractor sips fuel, so I haven't had much chance to use it yet. A long spell of cold weather with lows below zero finally did me in I guess.