I believe the Hype.

davygp38 · Mar 18, 2011

I was at my local welding supply store a few weeks ago, and he gave me some 80t AC plus rods to try. he said they were high strength, easy to use, and made nice welds. I was using 7018 rods in my latest project, and I was doing fine. Unfortunately I left the whole can of 7018 rods out, with the cap off. I didn't want to take a chance with the 7018 rods, being a little damp, so I tried the 80t rods. All I can say is wow! They were quiet, low splatter, easy to strike, and they made my welds look like I actually knew how to weld. I was burning them with the Everlast power arc 200 (dc). If you are an amateur welder like me, I would give them a try. I went back to the store, and bought 10 pounds, to finish up the project. Don't get me wrong, I would not use these rods as an all in one rod, I would still use a 6010, for the root pass on something heavy duty like a tractor implement, but I think I would make the rest of the passes with this rod. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Shield Arc · Mar 18, 2011

eastexan · Mar 18, 2011

Sounds impressive.
I tried looking it up, but can't find out much on the internet.
Who makes it?

J_J · Mar 18, 2011

messerwelding

80T-AC+

• This alloy was designed as a superior fit-up, assembly and tack rod
for all low carbon steels.
• Features touch strike and re-strike characteristics.
• Ultra low spatter and easy slag removal.
• Use with AC or DC (either polarity).
• Value packed in an attractive multi-colored corrugated carton.

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eastexan · Mar 18, 2011

Great JJ.
Thanks :thumbsup:

tglass · Mar 18, 2011

davygp38 said:
I was at my local welding supply store a few weeks ago, and he gave me some 80t AC plus rods to try. he said they were high strength, easy to use, and made nice welds. I was using 7018 rods in my latest project, and I was doing fine. Unfortunately I left the whole can of 7018 rods out, with the cap off. I didn't want to take a chance with the 7018 rods, being a little damp, so I tried the 80t rods. All I can say is wow! They were quiet, low splatter, easy to strike, and they made my welds look like I actually knew how to weld. I was burning them with the Everlast power arc 200 (dc). If you are an amateur welder like me, I would give them a try. I went back to the store, and bought 10 pounds, to finish up the project. Don't get me wrong, I would not use these rods as an all in one rod, I would still use a 6010, for the root pass on something heavy duty like a tractor implement, but I think I would make the rest of the passes with this rod. Any feedback would be appreciated.

How are they priced to 7018, and can they be used for the root pass?

yomax4 · Mar 18, 2011

MG 80T AC. I used to sell it. It was marketed as an 80,000 tensile 6013 rod. It really has no AWS Classification because it was once a propriatory formula..All I can say is I still use it. You have to try it. Runs like 6013, Holds like 8018..

Soundguy · Mar 18, 2011

so would that make it something like an 8013 then

soundguy

yomax4 · Mar 18, 2011

Yes sir. If you could boil t down.. I once worked for a filler metal company that send 10 sticks to Ohio State for evaluation. ( they do that ) The end result was yes, It is 80+,000 tensile. that is all they would say. I hate to pitch an MG rod but you can strike an arc and lay the stinger down..It will weld until the rod is gone..Done it, Like to show it..

Soundguy · Mar 18, 2011

reminds me of a brand I found once at the local gas dealer.. was called 'ez' or easystrike or similar. I swear you could strike an arc on a wet napkin with one.. mu guess is they were closer to the performance of a 6013 though looking at the weld / penetration / surface.. just easy to strike and hold an arc.. even on those lil 120v buzzboxes..

soundguy

eastexan · Mar 18, 2011

It would be nice to have something to replace the moisture finicky 7018 for those of us that don't have rod ovens, but like the strength and versatility of 7018.

That sounds like a great all round rod, especially for us farm boys.

From what little I can find out about it, the ones that have used it thinks it's great. But I wonder why it's not more commonly known?

And if it was marketed as a strong 6013, then wouldn't it be a shallow penetrating rod and shouldn't be used on thicker stuff?

yomax4 · Mar 19, 2011

Yep, Easy Strike was an MG 6013 rod too. It had a coated tip for an " Easy Strike "..MG makes about 1/2 of all the fancy *** rods out there. Stoody makes about 2/3 of the hard surface rods no matter what label they put on them..I typed in 13 brands and removed them prior to posting this. Glad I did.

yomax4 · Mar 19, 2011

eastexan said:
It would be nice to have something to replace the moisture finicky 7018 for those of us that don't have rod ovens, but like the strength and versatility of 7018.

That sounds like a great all round rod, especially for us farm boys.

From what little I can find out about it, the ones that have used it thinks it's great. But I wonder why it's not more commonly known?

And if it was marketed as a strong 6013, then wouldn't it be a shallow penetrating rod and shouldn't be used on thicker stuff?

If you Like 7018 but you hate Low Hydrogen rods, Try Harris 83-88.. 80,000 tensile 6011 rod...

Soundguy · Mar 19, 2011

yomax4 said:
Yep, Easy Strike was an MG 6013 rod too. It had a coated tip for an " Easy Strike "..MG makes about 1/2 of all the fancy *** rods out there. Stoody makes about 2/3 of the hard surface rods no matter what label they put on them..I typed in 13 brands and removed them prior to posting this. Glad I did.

makes sense... it was an easy strike.. and ran .. to me.. like a 6013 did.. just beter arc management.

soundguy

davygp38 · Mar 19, 2011

tglass said:
How are they priced to 7018, and can they be used for the root pass?

I paid $30.29 for ten pounds of 80t AC+, on March 14th, I paid $29.12 for ten pounds of 7018 on Feb 3rd. As far as the root pass goes, I myself will use 6010 for now, until I hear different. The 80t AC+ is advertised at 80,000 # but 6010 is tried, and true.

shaley · Mar 19, 2011

80 ksi seems like overkill when the base metal is 36 ksi but if you like the rod i'd use it. I have a bunch of 80 and 100 ksi rods I use. You find cans of them at garage sales around here because we use most of the worlds HY80 and HY100 plate on boats. I never could figure out why welding steel plate in the shape of a boat makes it float. Or why welding rolled plate, in the shape of a long cigar tube makes it sink sometimes and sometimes not and how does it know.

davygp38 · Mar 19, 2011

Shield Arc said:

I couldn't figure out how to weld a bead, and take a picture at the same time. I could have taken a picture of the rod, but it is a welding rod that is blue, I figured your imagination would have filled in the gaps. I could have taken a picture of a weld bead, but envision a crappy weld bead, that is a little less crappy, and there you have it.

Shield Arc · Mar 19, 2011

davygp38 said:
I could have taken a picture of a weld bead, but envision a crappy weld bead, that is a little less crappy, and there you have it.

Welp, maybe if you posted some pictures of your welds the more experienced weldors here could help you improve.

tglass · Mar 19, 2011

J_J said:
messerwelding

80T-AC+

This alloy was designed as a superior fit-up, assembly and tack rod
for all low carbon steels.
Features touch strike and re-strike characteristics.
Ultra low spatter and easy slag removal.
Use with AC or DC (either polarity).
Value packed in an attractive multi-colored corrugated carton.

Index