Husky 455 with decompression button

[charlessenf]

OK, my old bones and muscles (never anything to brag about) are proving inadequate to the task of starting this saw (after less than eighty years of use (me, not the five year old saw). I couldn't get it started last year and brought it it to have someone 'go over it' only to watch the fella taking it to the repair section 'drop pull it' and fire it right up!

It's too heavy for me to do that or might take a few more years of practice.

I put it on the ground, put my foot in the handle to hold it down there and pull. (I do press the compression relief thing first - not that old!).

Wondering if there was a trick not published in the owner's manual.

(As best I can tell) I do not have a AutoTune saw.

I do have some 36" caliper stuff I need to deal with (all on the ground - thanks to Mother Nature)

 

[oldnslo]

Is the decompression valve super sensitive and closes before engine even fires? I have seen a couple that way but have no clue on if they are adjustable or can be cleaned or something to prevent this.

 

[5030]

They aren't adjustable and usually, first time the saw 'pops', it will retract and close. The do suffer from getting gunk under the seat and need to be cleaned once in a while. What I do with mine is once it pops (and it closes), I push it again and the saw starts and it closes but the saw is running at that point.

You do need to follow the starting instructions carefully however.

 

[5030]

Having said that I have an Echo, not a Husqvarna. Same thing applies however.

 

[CalG]

I think I learned something on starting saws by watching a video on the internet.
(I can't be sure if It's true, or if I have actually learned anything ;-)

Any way, what I had never done, but seem to be having good success with now, is to leave the compression release alone, put the choke on, and then quite slowly pull the engine over two compression cycles. Then put the saw how you like (I go for on the ground, foot in the handle loop) And give the starter rope a good pull. I'm finding I get a pop right away. Off with the choke, and the saw starts and runs on the next pull if it didn't keep running on that first one.

In the past, I always gave the good pulls right from the get go.
This new method seems to work better, but I'm still learning ;-)

 

[xyz123]

Put one of these on there to help you get a good grip and pull it over faster.

If that is the problem. I have put several on older folks saws.

It alone bought my dad several years of starting his saw. Till he had to go EZ start saw.

 

[JeepHead]

You're a prime candidate or an Echo 2511! I swear these saws punch way above their weight class. But ya aint cuttin 36" stuff with one lol

 

[xyz123]

You're a prime candidate or an Echo 2511! I swear these saws punch way above their weight class. But ya aint cuttin 36" stuff with one lol

He is talking this little guy. I would get rear handle over top handle if doing lot of ground work. I have both.

25cc. under 6lbs PHO dry and 7lbs and some ounces ready to cut full both tanks. Spring assist starter.
Stock muffler holds them back from potential.

I love mine.

I also love the light for 50cc echo 501 with a decomp too. 10lbs 10oz PHO dry and under 14lbs ready to cut weight. But think I have a pic of 4910 one I traded. Stock muffler holds them back from potential

 

[xyz123]

That little guy was only saw I could start when I broke my ribs 6 weeks ago. Spring assist and very easy to start.

So I could keep dismantling a tree I had down.

 

[5030]

Put one of these on there to help you get a good grip and pull it over faster.

If that is the problem. I have put several on older folks saws.

It alone bought my dad several years of starting his saw. Till he had to go EZ start saw.

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Is that a Stens part or a over priced Stihl part?

 

[5030]

Stock muffler holds them back from potential

Stock muffs hold ALL of them back from potential. least in my view, but especially Stihl saws and especially the newer ones.

 

[5030]

First thing I do with any new saw is remove the muff (it's easier when the saw is still a virgin) and mod the muff for easier breathing. If you really want to go 'all out', get yourself an expansion chamber for the saw but that is a cumbersome alternative and will require rejetting and other expensive mods as well.

 

[ruffdog]

OK, my old bones and muscles (never anything to brag about) are proving inadequate to the task of starting this saw (after less than eighty years of use (me, not the five year old saw). I couldn't get it started last year and brought it it to have someone 'go over it' only to watch the fella taking it to the repair section 'drop pull it' and fire it right up!

It's too heavy for me to do that or might take a few more years of practice.

I put it on the ground, put my foot in the handle to hold it down there and pull. (I do press the compression relief thing first - not that old!).

Wondering if there was a trick not published in the owner's manual.

Back to the OP's question, getting weaker with age is something we will all deal with at some point in our life. Several years ago, I noticed my dad getting so weak that he had a hard time starting a saw. I had a nice MS290 that I sold him for an all around saw he could handle. Then, he said it wouldn't start for some reason, but it started right up for me. He just can't pull fast enough to turn the engine over fast enough to start. To be truthful, the only saw he should be using now is a small one with ez-start. I would help him with the wood but he has just turned mean and is not nice to be around.

 

[xyz123]

Stock muffs hold ALL of them back from potential. least in my view, but especially Stihl saws and especially the newer ones.

Especially Echo's IMHO worse then stihl

Pretty dang open stihl right there and a new saw.

Cant BS your way through with me. I own echo's

Then inside a echo all stuff up.

 

[JeepHead]

Back to the OP's question, getting weaker with age is something we will all deal with at some point in our life. Several years ago, I noticed my dad getting so weak that he had a hard time starting a saw. I had a nice MS290 that I sold him for an all around saw he could handle. Then, he said it wouldn't start for some reason, but it started right up for me. He just can't pull fast enough to turn the engine over fast enough to start. To be truthful, the only saw he should be using now is a small one with ez-start. I would help him with the wood but he has just turned mean and is not nice to be around.

I would probably be mean too if my son made me buy stuff from him. LOL I would have given my father anything I could.

 

[xyz123]

Is that a Stens part or a over priced Stihl part?

Stihl OEM 5-7 bucks. If you think that is over priced you have bumped your fing head.

I used to buy those 5 pak at a time.

 

[ruffdog]

I would probably be mean too if my son made me buy stuff from him. LOL I would have given my father anything I could.

I didn't make him buy anything. Yeah, a near new MS290 for $100 was a pretty good deal for him, wouldn't you say? I bet I cut and split more wood for him than you'll ever see. Not to mention the Husky 2100cd that I'm letting him use that he can't start. edit: (...and before that I gave him a nice Deere 80EV saw)

 

[JeepHead]

I didn't make him buy anything. Yeah, a near new MS290 for $100 was a pretty good deal for him, wouldn't you say? I bet I cut and split more wood for him than you'll ever see. Not to mention the Husky 2100cd that I'm letting him use that he can't start.

Calm down turbo, it was a joke! Not everyone can afford to give away a saw.

I cut, split, and sell well over a 100 cord a year so you can figure that one out on your own.