How to fix mountain washout

   / How to fix mountain washout #31  
Another thing to use to keep water off the trail. Get some used guard rail and lay in trail at angle to catch and shed water off trail. You can use to bolt holes to help anchor it in place. Have seen it used on a few hills with great success! If set right, you can push snow over them without catching them. Just another idea to throw out there.
With how far you can reach, might you be able to anchor in a cage to hold?
 
   / How to fix mountain washout #32  
You will need a larger backhoe excavator with more reach. That is the problem with the little ones they don't have much reach.
Reach out n down trench in and flat or even a bit of slope into the mountain and the mentioned gabion cages.
Even if you start out short and narrow then step it up a bit taller and wider and stair step up to or a bit above your desired level.
 
   / How to fix mountain washout #33  
The previous owner told me a guy with a small dozer was able to cut the trail in. I was also amazed because I'm not sure how he got a dozer through many of these rock sections. I've started on the water bars now, I like the bed mat idea as well.
Just toss in some rocks the same size as the cajones on that (small) dozer operator who cut that trail in.
 
   / How to fix mountain washout #34  
Still doesn't look that steep to me that you can't make a flat spot to put a cage in. It seems you can get your tractor closer to the uphill side so you can get your outrigger down. Also, You don't even need to use your tractor to make a flat spot, if it is not rocky there it won't take you long to make a flat spot with a mattock.
 
   / How to fix mountain washout #35  
Move your trail around that area. Mother nature is going to do what it is going to do.
 
   / How to fix mountain washout #36  
If it was my place, I would stack sacks of concrete to build up a wall to support the trail. While the sacks are still dry, pound rebar through them to lock them all together. Also pound the rebar into the soil that the sacks are sitting on. Bigger rebar into the soil would be better.

Here is an example of what I did for a culvert for my pond. I've seen the same thing done on a lot bigger scale.

After building it up, I would fill behind the sacks with gravel so water can drain easier and not build up behind the sacks.

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   / How to fix mountain washout #37  
Depending on how good you are with a chain saw… start dropping trees along that edge drag them in place with tractor. The longer /more the better. Stack them up like cord wood. Until that side is higher then mountain side then fill with dirt and rocks and get some vegetation growing on it. Then ditch the other side so the water runs past that point. And water bar along the trail. Start kind like this.
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   / How to fix mountain washout #38  
I've got a trail that runs up the side of my mountain. It's badly eroded in one spot, I wanted to fill it in before it makes the trail impassable. It's washed out on the downslope side, and it's extremely steep. Not sure if I'd even be able to get up it on foot. View attachment 3682140

Initially I drove 4 metal t posts into the side of the mountain, parallel to the trail. I had some 6x6 fence posts from a fence I'd taken down, so I laid them down against the t posts. Then filled the whole thing in with dirt.
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(The one t post at a wonky angle was too bent to drive in properly, but it's too steep to get down and pull it back out so I just left it. Not really doing anything to support the posts)
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It looked great for about 4 days, when a heavy thunderstorm rolled through and the t posts failed. View attachment 3682144

My next attempt I'm thinking of increasing the amount of t posts, and then using rocks to fill in the bulk of the space with dirt added as a filler. The thinking is less diet to hold water means less weight for the bulwark to support. Does anyone have any better ideas or suggestions on how to build this before I go rappelling down the mountain to get the posts that washed out?
Your never going to change nature. If the water has decided thats were its going to flow, thats were it will flow.. Stop it there and it will find somewhere else to flow and wash that area out. If you just use it as a hiking trail build a small bridge over the washout
 
   / How to fix mountain washout #39  
Mountain roads typically are cut into hillsides, not on fill placed on the down slope- this is a much more stable approach long term. Not sure where you are in WV (wet virginia) but i know in the North it was largely sandstone. The right way to do that section is take out some of the rock above either with explosives or a jack hammer on a small excavator- won't be cheap but it will work- too because the up slope adjacent to the road will be rock you won't have to slope it and will thus not need to remove a huge amount.
Then you need to a bunch of grade reversals and mix of insole and out slope drainage so you are having to maintain stuff constantly
 
   / How to fix mountain washout #40  
I think that this washout can still be solved by careful installation of something like the railroad tie retaining wall previously suggested that incorporates tiebacks to keep it from topping over.

The OP knows the actual terrain, and if he is uncomfortable using his backhoe due to the dropoff and limited space, I respect his assessment. Doing much digging could loosen the soil and cause the washout to worsen.

If it is going to wash because that is the lowest point and the water can't feasibly be redirected, I would want it to wash over rock or concrete that allows the water to flow over it without washing away.

Many trails have 6x6 ties that were placed only because someone hacked out a place for them with a mattock.

Dealing with this washout may involve quit a bit of physical labor because it is inaccessible to machinery or unsafe to operate machinery on the slope involved. But consider the effort of trying to relocate a trail like this because one section was allowed to wash out.
 
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