How Hard to De-Green a Kubota MX5200?

[CloverKnollFarms]

I'm kind of startled by the prices above for used Kubotas.

I have seen people complain about the plastic parts and knobs and so on, on TYM's, as though that's where TYM saved money. I was wondering whether it was feasible to make little improvements to these parts.

My tractor seems pretty heavily built. Steel, rubber, and a little plastic. Seems very tough.

I saw a TYM in a video, and it had a plastic tank. My tractor is about 25 years old, and it has a metal tank above the engine, where it's really hard to fill. Is plastic considered normal now? My c. 1990 JD garden tractor has a plastic tank.

As the guy who bought the no-frills Maytag commercial washer and loves it, I have to say that TYM is appealing.

Plastic tanks are the norm now. I've had no complaints with my TYM, though it is a legacy Branson model with some engineering improvements. Still has the A2300 engine, all mechanical, no goofy computer or sensors in seats, brakes, clutches etc... turn the key and it will run.

 

[Suburban Plowboy]

I see that the TYM T574 has more lifting power than the the Yanmar-powered model.

I don't use my tractor for farming. The vast majority of what I do is lifting wood and moving it. Lower fork. Shove under wood. Lift wood. Back up. Turn. Take to burn pile.

The more I look into it, the more I think HST is mandatory for this. I'm backing up and moving forward over and over.

 

[newkiotiguy]

I thought all this stuff was the same when I brought the subject up. I had no idea DEF and DPF were different things. I have three diesels and none of this EPA gadgetry, so I never had any reason to become familiar with it.

TYM tractors look really good apart from all the parts complaints.

I have learned to distrust environmental "advances." Sometimes they're wonderful, and then there are all the other times.

My house came with curly Gore bulbs full of mercury. They took about a minute to turn on fully, and they put Americans out of work. I got rid of them when LED's came along, and then I found out LED bulbs are intentionally designed to fail early. The manufacturers put false longevity claims on the packaging, and our government lets them.

I thought I had finally found a green device I liked, but no such luck. The government of Dubai made Phillips create LED bulbs that actually work, but they are not supposed to be sold in the US.

I had a green front-loading washer. My clothes smelled like mildew. I found out this type of washer stores filthy water between washes and keeps more filthy water inside the door gasket. People like to claim they've found solutions, but they're all lying or in denial. There is no solution.

I bought a Maytag that uses about a billion gallons of water per wash. It has three dials and one button. No computer. I no longer stink, and the washer should last 15 years. The more water it "wastes," the happier I am. All you guys who have green front loaders are actually wearing your own diluted filth.

I have all sorts of electronics that refuse to stay on, as if I'm not entitled to leave them on if I want. I have freezers full of flammable gas because the old refrigerants made penguins depressed or something. Flammable gas, in an appliance in a combustible dwelling with three people living in it.

My chainsaws came with EPA-mandated defects the makers did not go out of their way to mention on the packaging. I fixed that. I had to start buying special gas because the EPA likes diverting crops to ruin engines.

Paper straws. There's a beauty. They collapse. Everyone hates them. I went to Ebay and bought 600 plastic straws. The city where I used to live banned plastic "T shirt" grocery bags in favor of paper, which is inferior and actually much worse for the environment. We're banning plastics to protect sea life, in a country where no one dumps at sea.

I could go on.

I have ample reason to be suspicious of green stuff. It's not irrational. What's irrational is assuming these products will work and buying them without questioning it. I'm all for green everything, but it has to work.

Now tiny tractors have devices that deal with a miniscule amount of soot which would otherwise land on the grass and disappear without leaving their owners' property. Okay, but I want to know what I'm doing if I buy one.

 

[rScotty]

I thought all this stuff was the same when I brought the subject up. I had no idea DEF and DPF were different things. I have three diesels and none of this EPA gadgetry, so I never had any reason to become familiar with it.

TYM tractors look really good apart from all the parts complaints.

I have learned to distrust environmental "advances." Sometimes they're wonderful, and then there are all the other times.

My house came with curly Gore bulbs full of mercury. They took about a minute to turn on fully, and they put Americans out of work. I got rid of them when LED's came along, and then I found out LED bulbs are intentionally designed to fail early. The manufacturers put false longevity claims on the packaging, and our government lets them.

I thought I had finally found a green device I liked, but no such luck. The government of Dubai made Phillips create LED bulbs that actually work, but they are not supposed to be sold in the US.

I had a green front-loading washer. My clothes smelled like mildew. I found out this type of washer stores filthy water between washes and keeps more filthy water inside the door gasket. People like to claim they've found solutions, but they're all lying or in denial. There is no solution.

I bought a Maytag that uses about a billion gallons of water per wash. It has three dials and one button. No computer. I no longer stink, and the washer should last 15 years. The more water it "wastes," the happier I am. All you guys who have green front loaders are actually wearing your own diluted filth.

I have all sorts of electronics that refuse to stay on, as if I'm not entitled to leave them on if I want. I have freezers full of flammable gas because the old refrigerants made penguins depressed or something. Flammable gas, in an appliance in a combustible dwelling with three people living in it.

My chainsaws came with EPA-mandated defects the makers did not go out of their way to mention on the packaging. I fixed that. I had to start buying special gas because the EPA likes diverting crops to ruin engines.

Paper straws. There's a beauty. They collapse. Everyone hates them. I went to Ebay and bought 600 plastic straws. The city where I used to live banned plastic "T shirt" grocery bags in favor of paper, which is inferior and actually much worse for the environment. We're banning plastics to protect sea life, in a country where no one dumps at sea.

I could go on.

I have ample reason to be suspicious of green stuff. It's not irrational. What's irrational is assuming these products will work and buying them without questioning it. I'm all for green everything, but it has to work.

Now tiny tractors have devices that deal with a miniscule amount of soot which would otherwise land on the grass and disappear without leaving their owners' property. Okay, but I want to know what I'm doing if I buy one.

Get a grip. The old stuff still exists if you prefer it. The only person forcing you to use the new green technology is yourself.

 

[2manyrocks]

HST is really nice for loader work.

 

[Suburban Plowboy]

Get a grip. The old stuff still exists if you prefer it. The only person forcing you to use the new green technology is yourself.

It's like you didn't even read what I wrote.

 

[Suburban Plowboy]

newkiotiguy hitched up his Huggies and said:

 

[2manyrocks]

I see that the TYM T574 has more lifting power than the the Yanmar-powered model.

I don't use my tractor for farming. The vast majority of what I do is lifting wood and moving it. Lower fork. Shove under wood. Lift wood. Back up. Turn. Take to burn pile.

The more I look into it, the more I think HST is mandatory for this. I'm backing up and moving forward over and over.

Some here have posted their personal opinion that the Branson 4820 has superior build with the same reliable kukje engine.

 

[5030]

My comment is...They are all good until they aren't.

 

[Balazar]

The TYM 4820 and some of the other Branson incorporated models have metal fenders and a little more stout build. I think it has a two speed PTO as well. I have a T574 hydrostat with a cab. The loader lift rating is higher than any other that I know of in same size/weight class. Ballast is a must to be able to utilize it.

As far as plastic knobs and buttons, yes the PTO switches on the dash are plastic, though I don't think it has any more plastic that other brands. I suppose You could pop the plastic knob off and replace it with a nice metal one from a vintage Marshall guitar amp... The Light up push button could be replaced with an industrial one as well. They have very simple wiring and use standard off the shelf parts.

I feel hydrostat is the way to go for loader work. I only have power shuttle to compare it to, but I would take hydrostat over the power shuttle. The hydrostat has simple push button cruise control that basically locks the pedal in place. TYM's have "linked pedal" on all the time.

You will find that every feature on a T574 is mechanical. No electronics. The PTO has an auto mode but it isn't electronic. It's just controled by a simple switch that activates it when the 3 point lift is dropped. As far as tuning goes, there are guys that void the warranty and crank the injection pump pressure up a little. It is possible to do... Not going to elaborate much on this. If you can tune the pump on a 4BT or 12 valve 6B Cummins engine, you will be able to figure it out.