High or low sulfur?

[smfcpacfp]

Is it better to use high, or low sulfur diesel? The manual for my B3030 is unclear.

The irrationality for diesel pricing is another matter.

 

[number two]

Your tractor can use any diesel fuel. I'd be really surprised if you could find high sulphur at all. You might find dyed low sulphur(500ppm),but it's really being phased out fast. You're most likely getting ultra-low sulphur(<15ppm)in either dyed or undyed. Sulphur is a lubricant for the fuel system,so it is desireable,however oil changes can go longer if less sulphur is in the fuel. Since you really don't have a choice anymore,just assume you're getting ultra-low and consider a fuel additive for lubricity,although I believe there is a lubricity standard that fuel suppliers have to meet. Or just put it in and don't worry about it except for cold weather treatment. Good Luck

 

[teeravis1]

I use the off road # 2 because it is cheaper. Also #2 lubricates better than #1 I have been told. #1 is better for cold weather because it is thinner. However I use #2 in winter anyway because up here in winter it is mixed 50/50 with #1 and then i use power service with it all winter. Also I have heard that there is a difference in horsepower depending which you burn #1 or #2, but I don't know if that is true or which is suppose to give more Hp. Where I get my diesel the sign says the offroad is high sulfur and the on road is low sulfur.

 

[Egon]

The bigger question is ??? what do you have available to you and what is the definition of High/low sulphur diesel fuel???

 

[offcamber]

I been using Off-road diesel because its cheaper as well....I thought the only diffrence was it doesn't have the state tax on it like regular diesel and its dyed blue...

 

[ccsial]

I been using Off-road diesel because its cheaper as well....I thought the only diffrence was it doesn't have the state tax on it like regular diesel and its dyed blue...

Off road is dyed red. Marine diesel is usually blue.

 

[Skyco]

Blue? I've never heard of blue diesel so I did a little research.
In the mid 90's it appears the federal government required ALL non-highway fuel to be dyed RED, so is anyone still selling blue fuel in the US? The info I've found is a little vague as to blue fuel. I have bought taxed legal fuel that was a little greenish blue...so I'm wondering now.....
This supposedly was done to eliminate any possible confusion with some avgas which IS blue.
It seems blue diesel is real common in other countries though...there are even companies specializing in dyes for commercial fuel to track any theft by employees

 

[valleydweller1]

Your tractor can use any diesel fuel. I'd be really surprised if you could find high sulphur at all. You might find dyed low sulphur(500ppm),but it's really being phased out fast. You're most likely getting ultra-low sulphur(<15ppm)in either dyed or undyed. Sulphur is a lubricant for the fuel system,so it is desireable,however oil changes can go longer if less sulphur is in the fuel. Since you really don't have a choice anymore,just assume you're getting ultra-low and consider a fuel additive for lubricity,although I believe there is a lubricity standard that fuel suppliers have to meet. Or just put it in and don't worry about it except for cold weather treatment. Good Luck

The pumps where I get my fuel are labeled "S15" for the highway fuel (ultra-low sulfur) and "S500" for the pink offroad fuel (low sulfur). With all the recent changes in Oregon regarding fuel types, folks are becoming pretty astute so I doubt my local farm supply simply forgot to change them, so the ultra-low sulfur requirement must only apply to on-highway?

In my state you can get:
B5
B15
B99
S15 diesel
S500 offroad diesel
E10 gasoline (it's all E10 in Oregon now) 87, 89 and 92 octane
E85 for the Chevy flex-fuel vehicles.

So much for regular and super...

Greg

 

[Northland]

I use the off road # 2 because it is cheaper. Also #2 lubricates better than #1 I have been told. #1 is better for cold weather because it is thinner. However I use #2 in winter anyway because up here in winter it is mixed 50/50 with #1 and then i use power service with it all winter. Also I have heard that there is a difference in horsepower depending which you burn #1 or #2, but I don't know if that is true or which is suppose to give more Hp. Where I get my diesel the sign says the offroad is high sulfur and the on road is low sulfur.

I buy my diesel in da UP as well (Citgo in Soo MI) and use off-road #2 as you do with PS-my B7800 runs very well

 

[offcamber]

Off road is dyed red. Marine diesel is usually blue.

Your right it is red....my mistake.....I

The blue stuff I got once came from nieghbor...must have been from his boat....for some reason that color stuck in my head...

 

[RockyMnt1]

Aviation fuel has 3 colors depending on the octane rating:
100 octane Low Lead is blue
80 octane is red
100 octane is green
Jet A is clear.

 

[ray66v]

80 was red. Now its invisible.

 

[john_bud]

The pumps where I get my fuel are labeled "S15" for the highway fuel (ultra-low sulfur) and "S500" for the pink offroad fuel (low sulfur). With all the recent changes in Oregon regarding fuel types, folks are becoming pretty astute so I doubt my local farm supply simply forgot to change them, so the ultra-low sulfur requirement must only apply to on-highway?

In my state you can get:
B5
B
B99
S15 diesel
S500 offroad diesel
E10 gasoline (it's all E10 in Oregon now) 87, 89 and 92 octane
E85 for the Chevy flex-fuel vehicles.

So much for regular and super...

Greg

"S500" just means that the ppm of S is 16 or greater.

ULSD is the wave of the future. It's going to save the planet by its lower intrinsic yield of diesel gallons per barrel of fuel, its higher cost to manufacture, its lower energy content, its lower lubricity and its higher CO2 contribution per mile traveled making it an effulgent idea in the green war.

Makes about as much sense as rioting for tranquility.

jb

 

[teeravis1]

I buy my diesel in da UP as well (Citgo in Soo MI) and use off-road #2 as you do with PS-my B7800 runs very well

I buy my diesel at Citgo also, its the most conveniant spot for me. Not in the soo though! That would be about a 4 hr dive

 

[thatguy]

The bigger question is ??? what do you have available to you and what is the definition of High/low sulphur diesel fuel???

Depending on where you live does dictate whether you can even find high sulphur fuel anymore.. its still available around here, but not in some areas..

Low Sulfur has 500 PPM
Ultra Low Sulfur 15 PPM
High sulfur 5,000 PPM (from what I found witha quick search)

Brian

 

[cschlaps]

I noticed that some of you mention running PowerService in the diesel for your tractors...I'm glad to see that. I've been running PS in my Dodge pickup (every other tank) for a long time, and have been pleased with the results. I wasn't sure if I should try it in my Kubota yet...but will give it a try.

For what it's worth, I've been buying the offroad diesel as well. We're still on fuel oil at our home here, so I'm tempted to get a get a pump for the tank to just use that, instead of hauling around 5 gallon cans everytime I make a run to the gas station.

 

[krackerjack9]

We use JP-8 in everything in Iraq,, little over 4yrs now and no real issues, though the fuel pumps started failing at 30 to 35,000 hrs on the big gensets other than that all is good

 

[Northland]

. I'm tempted to get a get a pump for the tank to just use that, instead of hauling around 5 gallon cans everytime I make a run to the gas station.

Sounds like a good idea to me. I hate lugging and then hefting those 5 gallon diesel containers to fill my B7800

 

[David_Kb7uns]

Do know that one of the Kubota tractor manuals stated that if you used the high sulfur fuel that your oil change intervals were to be shorter.

David Kb7uns

 

[LBrown59]

For what it's worth, I've been buying the offroad diesel as well. We're still on fuel oil at our home here, so I'm tempted to get a get a pump for the tank to just use that, instead of hauling around 5 gallon cans everytime I make a run to the gas station.

This will pump it from your fuel oil tank and your 5 gallon cans.
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk286/lb59/100_2303.jpg
I have about 250 bucks in this set up.
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk286/lb59/100_2303.jpg
Why are you hauling it in in 5 gallon cans when you have it setting at home?