fuel additives

   / fuel additives #21  
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Since the goobermint took all the lubricating qualities out of Diesel Fuel

I find that hard to believe ... ALL?

Really? I drive a New Kenworth Truck with a Cummins X15 engine, I do add myself some Hot Shot Winter Extreme when temperature is going below +30° which also includes a extra lubricant, but majority of the fuel I burn in 600K miles before we trade them in at 4 years old is just what I pump out of the truck stops I go to, Flying J, Pilot, and Love's ... Mostly a biodiesel blend of 5-20%

On my personally owned tractors I run 100% "dino-diesel", I run Hot Shots Everyday in the summer (with a half dose of the LX4 added) and in the winter I use there Winter Defense (with a half dose of the LX4 added) besides roughly twice a year I use there DIESEL EXTREME system cleaner ... Be aware that there are two ways to "remove" water/condensate ... One is allow it to "mix" with the fuel and burn it ... The other is to "help" it separate from the fuel, and you collect and remove it ... Hot Shot uses the later, I prefer that way better, research if you want to push water through your injectors and pump ...
 
   / fuel additives #23  
It also has the best ability to also absorb water ...

My original point was we drive 600K miles ... There must be still lubricant in the fuel, the government didn't take it ALL out!
 
   / fuel additives #24  
The only additive I would be interested in would be if I had a Diesel with a HPFP (highpressurefuelpump). In that case I would want to add an additive that helps lubricate the fuel pump. Some pumps are better than others but they all need lubricating these days. HPFPs are a different animal altogether. Forget all the Old-School stuff when it comes to them. Otherwise, it could cost you a LOT of money

Since the goobermint took all the lubricating qualities out of Diesel Fuel, it's a good idea to add some back in. Especially if you're running Winter Fuel or mixing in kerosene. I don't believe kerosene has much in the way of lubricating qualties. If any at all.

YMMV
The best overall lubricant is biodiesel, which also happens to be the lowest cost.
 
   / fuel additives #25  
Some people take all the fun out of everything
 
   / fuel additives #26  
Biodiesel has the best lubrication qualities but yes it is also the first to gel up. Given a choice I like to run pure diesel but the only way to get it is off road. I can get that from a friend on occasion.
 
   / fuel additives #27  
The


I find that hard to believe ... ALL?

Really? I drive a New Kenworth Truck with a Cummins X15 engine, I do add myself some Hot Shot Winter Extreme when temperature is going below +30° which also includes a extra lubricant, but majority of the fuel I burn in 600K miles before we trade them in at 4 years old is just what I pump out of the truck stops I go to, Flying J, Pilot, and Love's ... Mostly a biodiesel blend of 5-20%

On my personally owned tractors I run 100% "dino-diesel", I run Hot Shots Everyday in the summer (with a half dose of the LX4 added) and in the winter I use there Winter Defense (with a half dose of the LX4 added) besides roughly twice a year I use there DIESEL EXTREME system cleaner ... Be aware that there are two ways to "remove" water/condensate ... One is allow it to "mix" with the fuel and burn it ... The other is to "help" it separate from the fuel, and you collect and remove it ... Hot Shot uses the later, I prefer that way better, research if you want to push water through your injectors and pump ...
The relatively-new high pressure common rail fuel delivery systems and accompanying tight tolerance injectors will be destroyed if much water passes through them. The water molecules are much larger than diesel fuel molecules.

If anyone tries to tell you they sell diesel fuel containing no biodiesel. Ask them what other lubricity additive is used, it they cannot tell you, they are selling B2, which does not require any pump sticker.
To the best of my knowledge, the EPA requires ALL diesel fuel to contain an additive to replace the lost lubricity during the refining process that removes sulfur.
 
   / fuel additives #28  
I've been using PowerService grey bottle during the summer and white bottle during the winter in my 2002 BX2200 ever since the switch to ultra low sulfur diesel fuels. Got over 2,400 hours on it and never a problem with the injection pump or the injectors.

Here in upstate NY, we've got a lot of asphaltenes in our diesel fuels and I notice it keeps the fuel filters from turning grey/black color.

I also use PowerService or Hotshots EDT in my 2020 EcoDiesel because of the CP4.

I love diesels and I want to be sure I'm doing the best I can to keep them running happy. :D
I started using the same, and noticed it runs smoother and quieter.
 
   / fuel additives #29  
The relatively-new high pressure common rail fuel delivery systems and accompanying tight tolerance injectors will be destroyed if much water passes through them. The water molecules are much larger than diesel fuel molecules.

If anyone tries to tell you they sell diesel fuel containing no biodiesel. Ask them what other lubricity additive is used, it they cannot tell you, they are selling B2, which does not require any pump sticker.
To the best of my knowledge, the EPA requires ALL diesel fuel to contain an additive to replace the lost lubricity during the refining process that removes sulfur.
My understandning of what happens to water-contaminated diesel passing through injectors is -- Water boils and turns to steam at 212 degrees F. Since the combustion chamber of a diesel can temporarily reach 4500 degrees F, the water instantly turns to steam, expands and destroys the injector.

OTOH, I could be completely wrong since I am not an engineer. Not smart enough. But that's what I read somewhere. And we all know, if it's on the Interweb, it must be true. 🤷‍♂️
 
   / fuel additives #30  
My understandning of what happens to water-contaminated diesel passing through injectors is -- Water boils and turns to steam at 212 degrees F. Since the combustion chamber of a diesel can temporarily reach 4500 degrees F, the water instantly turns to steam, expands and destroys the injector.

OTOH, I could be completely wrong since I am not an engineer. Not smart enough. But that's what I read somewhere. And we all know, if it's on the Interweb, it must be true. 🤷‍♂️
That sounds like the technical explanation of my simple one. (y)
 

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