Help me identify this backhoe attachment

[bbtank45]

Maybe an old Kelley or brantly?

 

[flingwing1969]

Pretty sure it's not either of those. The cylinder placement is quite unusual.

 

[bbtank45]

I really don't know....I don't believe it's home made. Went and looked at it tonight. Close family friends, asking $1200

 

[flingwing1969]

Pretty sure it's not either of those. The cylinder placement is quite unusual - I don't recall ever seeing the boom cylinder mounted under the boom before on a tractor attachment hoe anyway - occasionally on an excavator.

 

[/pine]

just a guess that it could be a Vermeer...

 

[bcp]

Long.

LONG 1199A 3PT HITCH BACKHOE ATTACHMENT

Manual:
http://www.ntractorclub.com/manuals... Three Point Hitch Backhoes Owners Manual.pdf

Bruce

 

[flingwing1969]

Long.
Bruce

There you go, nice catch Bruce.

 

[bbtank45]

Thanks guys. Any personal experience or opinions on this particular backhoe? I'll be using it on the back of a Mahindra 4025 4wd...just around the house for some drainage ditches and footers.

 

[flingwing1969]

I think I might offer a bit less than that. Hard to do with friends though. From the two videos I watched, the one Bruce posted and another, they are not the smoothest operating hoes I've seen - even discounting operator experience.

 

[bbtank45]

Newbie here....would the smoothness be affected by the hydraulics or the tolerances during manufacturing? What makes one backhoe smoother than another...

 

[flingwing1969]

Newbie here....would the smoothness be affected by the hydraulics or the tolerances during manufacturing? What makes one backhoe smoother than another...

It can be a combination of things, most impotently, operator experience - but some hoes are inherently easier and smoother to operate than others because of their construction - valves etc. I've never operated a Long but it just seems a bit more difficult to control than most - based only on these two videos I've seen. I'm sure that with practice, the operation will be much smoother than in the video Bruce posted.

 

[flingwing1969]

As three point hoes go, this one is fairly large with a long reach. That is useful. I also like the manual, one of the better ones out there actually - and now you'll have it. You may need to replace all the hoses, redo the seat and the cylinder seals may leak - it's obviously been sitting by itself for a while - that should be considered in deciding on a price. Hoses and fittings are costly - even if you have them done at NAPA instead of a dedicated hydraulics shop. Check on line for the price of TPH hoes, used and you'll get an idea if this is one you want for $1200. I do believe that price is north of what I would pay.

On the other hand, once you've had a hoe, you will never go back to a shovel - I love having one and find it useful for all sorts of tasks - including rear ballast for my 4n1 bucket.

 

[herringchoker]

The rods on the boom and dipper cylinders appear to be rusted. Others should be checked for rust. Rebuilding a cylinder can get expensive. No sense in replacing a seal if the rod is rusted.

 

[bbtank45]

I would agree with all of tyhe above. I will get some more information and take some more pictures and report back. Generally speaking, for those that have owned the Long backhoes have been satisfied.

 

[CincyFlyer]

Unless you want to do some rebuilding, I'd likely not pay more than $500 for it. You could need all of the cylinders rebuilt, plus new valves.

 

[flingwing1969]

Unless you want to do some rebuilding, I'd likely not pay more than $500 for it. You could need all of the cylinders rebuilt, plus new valves.

That was around the price I was thinking, might offend the owner/friend who thinks highly of it. One can pick up a used hoe in fair condition on Craigs List from time to time and they show up at auctions pretty regularly in the < $1000 range.

 

[bbtank45]

That would most certainly offend the family.

Thanks y'all.

 

[bbtank45]

I ended up purchasing this attachment, expect to start moving dirt in the next week or so. Total investment, including the purchase price is $2,300. I cant buy a new one for that, or one made with american steel with bushings. Im content i made the purchase. I eliminated the PTO pump and plan to run off the remotes on the tractor....i also replaced the control valve with a Walvoil (italian made) valve from surplus center. All hoses and fittings are discount hose supply.com of which i crimped and cut myself. I replaced the rods in the cylinders and repacked them myself.

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[Peter 315]

Nice job looks great , Nice big shop you have:thumbsup:

 

[ovrszd]

Nice work on the rebuild, thanks for the pics!!!!

In Bruce's video I just watched the first minute. Couldn't stand to watch anymore of it. Operator doesn't understand the concept of a hoe.

I wouldn't like the seat swinging with the boom but I guess you'll get used to it. When your efficiency improves and you get faster that may be uncomfortable.

Anxious to hear your report on using the tractor hydraulics. I think that method is going to slow the hoe down a lot. Can't think your rear remote GPM is anywhere near what the PTO pump would produce. Hope I'm wrong.

Good luck with this project and report your progress!!!

When I saw the pic that included the front of your fridge I knew we shared a hobby. Then a couple farther down I saw your buggy.