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[pualsline]

so I know this question does not belong in this section but I wasn't sure about where to put it...So here is my question

I have a brick wall that I am wanting to hang a sign on. I don't want to drill holes or anything like that. So I am wondering if I should you some type of adhesive and put hooks at the corner for the sign and if so what type? Is there a better alternative? I am wanting to be able to change out the sign easily...but my primary concern is damage to the wall

 

[zzvyb6]

In a similar situation, I "nailed" a small trim board to the wall with those .22 powered hammer nails. Then I put a couple of nails into the board on which I hang my sign with some small hooks. A vice grips is all you need to pull out the "nail" from the brick. I put one in the mortar and one in the brick. When you are done, seal it with some caulking. take an old brick and mash it up into a paste and that will hide the small hole, if that's a concern. Since then, I found you can "nail" gutter downspout straps, tool holder boards, insulation, an other things with this system both into cement and into brick.

 

[Soundguy]

Epoxy putty.. make 2 good size balls of the stuff and stuff them into a mortar joint leaving them a bit prowd.. go ahead and screw your hooks into it and then let setup.. can remove hooks when needed, and with care and a chissle and hammer, remove putty taking little bits at a time..

soundguy

 

[brin]

You might see if you can track down somewhere to buy that " Mighty Putty " Billy Mays used to advertise on TV - he claimed it would stick to and bond anything..

 

[pualsline]

guys thanks so much for the advice. I am going to try and stay away from putting any holes into the brick. The building is not mine, and the owner said that I could hang a sign as long as I am willing to cause zero damage. I like the idea of the epoxy putty and putting the hook into that so that I could just chizzle that away whenever I am done...Are there anymore ideas that we might have overlooked?

 

[Soundguy]

I saw a guy hang a 4x8 plywood sign to the wall of a concrete block building by taking a 2x2 sheet of 1/4 plywwod, cutting it into 4 1x1 pieces and then putting large head roofing nails thru the 1x1 in a few places.. then using about 8 lines or clear rtv across the back of each 1x1 plate and stuck them to the wall so they would match the corners of the sign.. he used a 2x4 wedged against the ground to hold each 1x1 to the wall till the rtv dried ( cured).. then he put the plywood sign up to the backing boards that had some nails sticking straight out.. then nailed it straight on.. the nail heads protruded about 3/8 and he just bent them over... removal was with a crowbar.. just leveraged the main board and smaler boards off.. the rtv stuck in some places but a bit of hand work removed it with no permanent changhe to the block wall except some mildue behind the board where no sun got.. ( seems like alotta work to me.. but worked.. )

soundguy

 

[PILOON]

Polyurathane caulking (Flextra is one brand) is what sign makers use to install the large letter signes you see on many commercial buildings.
PL3 construction adhesive would also work.

Those signes are often simply foam insulation board cutout letters stuck on the building.
Wire brush is used to remouve the adhesive at later date.

Just helped a buddy sign his commercial building that way.
WE hot wire cut the letters and applied 2 coats of latex to seal and color the letters and stuck them on. Looks good!

 

[Soundguy]

IMO- Glue would be more of an issue to ever have to remove,
why not drill holes? there usually isn't any damage done to a brick wall if you simply drill small holes into the mortar, then use some red heads tap-con type screws or even led set anchors, then if ever you need to remove the sign, remove the screws, there is a mortar caulking (QUIKRETE) that is for the use of filling these holes, comes in most of the common mortar colors and has a % of sand in it just as the mortar has,

The OP has already stated twice, in no uncertain terms, that drilling the wall is 100% totally out of the question... to continue to suggest and push the issue seems pointless???

soundguy

 

[deepNdirt]

The OP has already stated twice, in no uncertain terms, that drilling the wall is 100% totally out of the question... to continue to suggest and push the issue seems pointless???

soundguy

My deepest humble apologies go out to the forum for not reading that it had already been mentioned 1 time before to drill holes, I will retract my suggestion and take my 10 lashes like a man,

I only mentioned what I did because I've only installed maybe 2000 sets of shutters and wooden Pediments,pilasters,etc, over windows and doors on brick using the mentioned method and also have removed them as well, But I had a liability concern I couldn't take a chance of one falling off the wall and hitting someone, I don't think I could had gotten by with simply gluing them on,
trust me I'm not pushing the issue though

 

[EddieWalker]

You said that it's a wall. Is it a wall that has a top to it? Can you hang something over the top of the wall? I'm thinking of a bracket that would to up the wall, over the wall, and then back down the other side for a short distance.

I would make it out of steel. Probably one inch square tubing. If you can't weld, it would be real simple to hire it done. Just know your measurements.

Once built, it would be easy to bolt just about anything to it. If it's a small sign, or something lightweight, you could even use self tapping screws to attach the sign to the metal.

If it's a wall of a building and there isn't a top to it like a wall or fence wolud have, then I'd think along the lines of how painting were hung in old homes. With plaster walls, they hung the paintings from the moulding at the top of the wall. If you can find a wood will, or something that you can screw into, then eye screws and wire would be very strong.

I don't care for glueing anything to brick. It's so porous that it's very hard to get something to stick. Once it adheres to the brick, it will never come off. You will have to take off some of the brick to get rid of it. Compared to the very minimal damage that drilling into morter would cause, glue would be allot worse.

A picture would be very helpful. Seeing what you have to deal with, and know what size and type of sign that you want to display, will allow us to give you a much better reply. Right now, we can only guess as to what you are dealing with.

Eddie

 

[CurlyDave]

If there is a roof over the wall, think about hooks with screw threads into the bottoms of the rafter tails and chain to hold up the sign.

The other possibility is a free-standing sign very close to the brick wall.

 

[Soundguy]

My deepest humble apologies go out to the forum for not reading that it had already been mentioned 1 time before to drill holes, I will retract my suggestion and take my 10 lashes like a man, p

Not 1 time.. .. but 2 times...Both post 1 and 5 mention 'no holes'

soundguy

 

[JB4310]

guys thanks so much for the advice. I am going to try and stay away from putting any holes into the brick. The building is not mine, and the owner said that I could hang a sign as long as I am willing to cause zero damage. I like the idea of the epoxy putty and putting the hook into that so that I could just chizzle that away whenever I am done...Are there anymore ideas that we might have overlooked?

Well I was almost gonna mention a 1/4" plastic shield and a screw on hook. And if it was just you afraid of damaging your own property, I, like some of the others here, might of tried to reassure you that that's pretty much industry standard, and not to worry about doing "damage".
But I see that you were told not to by the land lord not to. So yeah pretty much gonna have to go with the putty stuff, I have never used it but it looks good on the commercials.

How big is the sign? if not to big then 2 hooks, one at each of the top corners. if the sign is huge then you can put as many hooks as will fit in the width of the sign, that should hold it.

When you do go to "chizzle" them off, and there's any damage, just remind the land lord that he didn't want any holes in the wall.
It would be easier to fill a little 1/4" hole in the mortar joint than patching a spalled brick face. But that's only if that putty is so good that it actually requires a chisel to take it off, probably not though.

I suspect you'll be alright with the putty.

Good Luck. JB.

 

[Soundguy]

I'd stick the putty in the mortar joint specifically to avoid spalling the brick faces themselves.. plus it will give a bit of a lip to help with downforce.

soundguy

 

[JB4310]

You would probably need an amount bigger than just the joint, but if it was a deep, what we call "raked joint" that would really grab on, but then you might have trouble getting it out.




JB

 

[Soundguy]

I'm actually hoping for a raked joint.. more surface area... as for removal.. I've yet to find an epoxy putty that stood up to cold steel and a mallet...hence the chissle...


soundguy

 

[Cami]

You need brick clips! Brick Clip

I've never used them, but I've seen them in the Lee Valley catalogue I keep in the bathroom...it's not so obtrusive as the Acklands Grainger "phonebook.".

 

[Window Geek]

How big and heavy is this sign? If the brick joints are raked even slightly, there are hanger clips that clamp on the brick edges without damaging anything. I'll post pictures if you like. It all depends how heavy the sign is.

 

[pualsline]

The sign is not a very big sign....I think of the options the one that I like the best are the brick clips. I might have to give that a try...Thank you guys for your help

 

[Treemonkey1000]

Use velcro strips. You can buy long pieces of it. I doubt if the glue on the back of it will mark up your bricks at all.