Has anyone converted a full size backhoe to a quick attach bucket?

[Xfaxman]

Who ever did it , doesn't want to talk about it,

because it broke in a swift and terrible way.

That痴 what I am afraid will happen to the SSQA version.

SSQA will work if you add gussets to keep the top lip from bending:




These were made strong from the factory :thumbsup::

 

[Big Barn]

SSQA will work if you add gussets to keep the top lip from bending:

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These were made strong from the factory :thumbsup::

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Xfaxman is correct about SSQA being suitable IF the attachment plate is gusseted well.

SSQA attachments are widely available but personally I hate the system. I recently sold this NH wheel loader with power SSQA.



I much prefer the euro-style on our other machines. Dropping a bucket or attaching one can be done in the time it takes you to lower the lift arms and reverse direction.

 

[ddbackhoe]

Yes the big loaders sometimes have QA. It痴 a 4 pin system. It痴 nearly identical to the Kubota backhoe subframe mounts except upside down.

. Equipment junkyard near by? Abandoned wheel loaders? The measurements (pins, width, etc.) are what really matter.

 

[aczlan]

Here's a picture of the quick attach system on a John Deere 310 and the bucket side (or in this case the fork side) of the system:


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[4570Man]

Xfaxman is correct about SSQA being suitable IF the attachment plate is gusseted well.

SSQA attachments are widely available but personally I hate the system. I recently sold this NH wheel loader with power SSQA.

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I much prefer the euro-style on our other machines. Dropping a bucket or attaching one can be done in the time it takes you to lower the lift arms and reverse direction.

I agree the euro style is faster to use and stronger. Skid steer implements are easier to come by. For that reason I may go SSQA.

 

[4570Man]

. Equipment junkyard near by? Abandoned wheel loaders? The measurements (pins, width, etc.) are what really matter.

My buddy has a small loader with QA. The sawmills have bigger loaders with QA. I’m not sure how standardized the loader QA is.

 

[Xfaxman]

My buddy has a small loader with QA. The sawmills have bigger loaders with QA. I'm not sure how standardized the loader QA is.

I don't think there is a standard. Bobcat had a unique QA for their larger Versahandlers:

 

[Big Barn]

I don't think there is a standard. Bobcat had a unique QA for their larger Versahandlers:

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There definitely is no standard. I’ve seen many variations and I don’t t get out much.

That Versahandler QA is very similar to my Manitou/New Holland QA.

 

[XSKIER]

I have a Deere 210C no backhoe. On paper I thought that it would be great to use as a forklift. So, I spent the time and dough to convert to SSQA. I think it sucks. I'm about $3500 into the project, and lost a noticeable amount of breakout force when trying to get a full yard bucket of crushed limestone out of a pile. And the biggest letdown is still near zero visibility with the forks. Yes, fork visibility is better with the SS forks vs the over the bucket forks, but you still need a spotter for pallets, or anything below 5' off the ground. However, there is another option. A nice pneumatic tire lift truck is money well spent! (still need the tractor for the rare occasion the forklift gets stuck)

 

[4570Man]

I have a Deere 210C no backhoe. On paper I thought that it would be great to use as a forklift. So, I spent the time and dough to convert to SSQA. I think it sucks. I'm about $3500 into the project, and lost a noticeable amount of breakout force when trying to get a full yard bucket of crushed limestone out of a pile. And the biggest letdown is still near zero visibility with the forks. Yes, fork visibility is better with the SS forks vs the over the bucket forks, but you still need a spotter for pallets, or anything below 5' off the ground. However, there is another option. A nice pneumatic tire lift truck is money well spent! (still need the tractor for the rare occasion the forklift gets stuck)

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I already have a a forklift and a skid steer and a little tractor. I still want forks on the backhoe since it doesn’t get stuck everywhere like the forklift and doesn’t rape the ground like the SS, and lifts way more than the tractor. How does your backhoe less backhoe do as a loader? My 310 weighs 6k more and easily pulls the back end off the ground. I’d think going on a 6k diet and loosing the counter weight of the boom it wouldn’t lift much.

 

[XSKIER]

The rear tires are loaded with rimguard, and it has about a 1500 lb counterweight/ three point hitch attachment. It does okay as a loader, not so good as a forklift. But for guy that already has it all, I say go for it!

 

[4570Man]

I didn’t know the 210 had a 3 point hitch until now. How does it do as a tractor? Is it a shuttle shift? The transmission on my 310 is really nice for direction changing but it doesn’t seem very efficient. I expected the machine to road better than it does. Mine is turbocharged and nearing 100 hp but it’s a real snail even on light hills. My SS isn’t a good forklift either. It’s plenty strong and visibility is good but the tracks are too rough. It shakes pallets apart. Going sideways is even worse.

 

[XSKIER]

I don't really have any tractor type uses, I just use it as a loader, and a back blade for spreading gravel. I love the torque converter and reverser transmission, but could see that it might get old trying to plow a field with it.

 

[4570Man]

I don't really have any tractor type uses, I just use it as a loader, and a back blade for spreading gravel. I love the torque converter and reverser transmission, but could see that it might get old trying to plow a field with it.

I also love the transmission. Since the backhoe on mine isn’t removable plowing a field isn’t very likely.

 

[BukitCase]

I started a QA for the loader on my 580B, but it's stalled out lately due to higher priorities - I went with a beefier version of some I saw on Kubotas, most of the parts are 1/2" and 3/4" steel - upper pins will fit into deep "U" brackets, then the 2 lower pins will lock it into the uppers - I built a jig (all 3/4x3 FB) to press 1/2x3 FB into the U brackets, then future implements will just be Case compatible 2-pin mount. If I'm just moving attachments around, no need to use lower pins at all, just "hook-n-go" -

The long radius in the plates is just to clear the curved back of the original 1 yd bucket; other implements (grapple, forks, brush forks, 3ph quick hitch, etc) may not need that. The "U" brackets are only needed on the main loader mounts, any attachments would just be 1-1/2" pins spaced same as original.

Here's a few pics, any questions feel free to ask... Steve

 

[BukitCase]

A few more...



IIRC, JD hoes use a single curl cylinder - but hopefully some of this might work for you... Steve

Oh, here's Case's version - I didn't like the idea of having to build those hooks for every single attachment, so I went with the heavier version of the Kubota



BTW, those pieces are still sitting around waiting for me, hopefully sometime in the next year

 

[ddbackhoe]

BTW, those pieces are still sitting around waiting for me, hopefully sometime in the next year

Funny how the drama of everyday life keeps these kinda things on the back burner....You spent a lot of time on it and so far, fantastic job.

 

[Big Barn]

I Skid steer implements are easier to come by. For that reason I may go SSQA.

I agree. I have more than a couple SSQA attachments around. By no means am I happy with the fact, but that’s just the way it is.....

 

[Big Barn]

I started a QA for the loader on my 580B, but it's stalled out lately due to higher priorities - I went with a beefier version of some I saw on Kubotas, most of the parts are 1/2" and 3/4" steel - upper pins will fit into deep "U" brackets, then the 2 lower pins will lock it into the uppers - I built a jig (all 3/4x3 FB) to press 1/2x3 FB into the U brackets, then future implements will just be Case compatible 2-pin mount. If I'm just moving attachments around, no need to use lower pins at all, just "hook-n-go" -

The long radius in the plates is just to clear the curved back of the original 1 yd bucket; other implements (grapple, forks, brush forks, 3ph quick hitch, etc) may not need that. The "U" brackets are only needed on the main loader mounts, any attachments would just be 1-1/2" pins spaced same as original.

Here's a few pics, any questions feel free to ask... Steve

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[Big Barn]

These three loaders all have QA and each has at least two buckets and fork attachments.



Just sold this Toolcat with manual SSQA.

Bought it for a backup machine. I should have done better research as it was totally inadequate for our uses. The girls (and guys) on the farm hated it.