Handling railroad ties

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RalphVa

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Found out from a friend who used to do this kind of thing. He says I need 4 8x8 railroad ties. He says that was what he used to support his 3500 # tractor over a stream. He bought 16 footers and told me where to get them. I'd cut them (or hire the lumber Co. to do it) to about 10' before loading in the pickup, as this is the length needed. Probably be around 200 # each, as an 8' tie is 170 #.

He no longer does that kind of thing because of his age. Been trying to find bridge builders. No bites so far.

So, think we'll have to do it ourselves, me and the mighty wife. Been thinking about how to handle the railroad ties. First chore will be to get them out of the pickup. A boom pole may help for that, but what how to attach a rope to a tie? Have Googled "grapple on a rope" and "hanging grapple" with no success in finding a smaller (200-300 # capacity) grapple. Could use a long rope looped up to the boom pole and all the way back, but then how to raise a tie to get the rope under it.

To get the tie across the little stream, can use the boom pole. Found out they have a 7' reach past the 3ph. That would be about right to get the approximately 10' tie across, holding it just past the half way point so the back end at the tractor will stay down, etc.

Then again, how to hold onto the tie: grapple or rope loop. Could use something like the tow hook that came with both Mazdas, e.g. screw into a tie and lift with it (could weaken the tie). However, comes the problem of how to get it out once the tie is in the middle of the stream. Where the stream is is maybe 5' deep with the water in it a few inches. A rope loop would work. Could lift a tie with the FEL and then prop it up and put rope loop under it. Maybe screw in a small bolt into the tie, to ensure the loop won't slip.

Any ideas? Also thought about putting some small bolts into the tie end near the stream and lift with the FEL and plop the tie onto the other side. This is how I did the 4x4s for the people bridge. Ties could slide sideways on the FEL, maybe not be held by the bolts digging into the soft, grassy ground.

Ralph
 
   / Handling railroad ties #2  
Look for a handyman or friend to help you out- work with you instead of doing the whole project.
I’m concerned that if getting the ties out of the truck is challenging you you need help that is physically there.
 
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I put them across the loader bucket and strap them down to move them around.

If you have vehicle access to both sides of the stream, try dragging them across from the other side. Use a tow strap wrapped around one end at least twice.
 
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Log skidding tongs from Northern Tool will do everything you are talking about.
 
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Should be able to just strap the Ties to the bucket and use the bucket to lift them out of the truck bed. Make sure you have some counter weight on the 3 point. A 200 pound load should likely not need one, but it will make you more stable and secure. Of course make sure your straps have a WLL of at least 200 pounds and use 2 or 3 of them for redundancy and safety in case one happens to fail.
 
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Log skidding tongs from Northern Tool will do everything you are talking about.

Think I'll get a set of these: log skidding tongs from Northern Tool + Equipment

Thanks.

Don't see how one would get a tie strapped onto the FEL from the side of the pickup. Have access to both sides of the stream, but the thing is about 5' deep in the middle. No easy way to man handle them. Got a good friend who is big and strong and have hired him as a handy man in the past, but need a couple of ones like him. That's why I was looking at hiring it done.

Ralph
 
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I bought a set of lifting tongs from Northern Tools several years ago. On sale for $29.00. They work really well. I hang them off of a chain from a hitch on my FEL arms. Don't have to get off the seat. I just drive up and lower them down onto the log, bounce the control a bit and they'll open and slide right around the log. Lift up and off you go.... unless the log weighs more than the machine.... or the grapevines won't let go!

:laughing:

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^^^^^
I've been reading about the Suburban and the ToolCat for years, yet I believe this is the first picture I've actually seen of them. :thumbsup:
 

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