hail storm roof replacement

[buckeyefarmer]

back in june we had a hail storm in the neighborhood. Golf ball size and lots of it. 3 of my cars got dented up pretty good, put in an insurance claim but still need to get fixed. I kept getting these unheard of companies that are hail damage experts knocking on the door, insisting my roof needed replaced. I kept telling them to go away, but as I kept looking around I noticed several holes in the vinyl siding, a door screen got shredded, and some of my metal screens had holes in them. The roof didn't look too bad, but you could tell where the hail hit. In some places it did take the grit off the shingles. I finally called the insurance company and put in a claim on the house, and they are going to cover a new roof replacement, some siding replacement, and several screens replaced. Now comes the fun part, tearing off the shingles. I built the house myself, and installed the roof. I have installed several roofs over the years, but have never torn one off. Looking for suggestions and hints for the tear off stage. I got one price for labor from an amish crew to do the roof, but I think it is rather high. How much per sq in labor (I supply the material and dumpster) is reasonable for a tearoff?

 

[radioman]

Dunno about cost- but it is back breaking work. my house is 3000 living square feet with 2 car attached garage. Took me 6 days, all day to do everything from tearoff, carry shingles/other materails from store to trailer to roof. take tearoffs and dumpster stuff to landfill myself as well and run magnet bar around house looking for nails. My 850 sqft rental house only took me 5 days for everything as well but has more complicated corners and valleys and roof halfway down house.

 

[Larry Jones]

Sounds like your existing roof is in pretty decent shape. Why not just roof over it and save the trouble. Next time you will have to tear off both layers but my experience is that two comes off about as easy as one.

 

[johnnyvol]

You may be considering doing it yourself to save money, and that's your right. That said, unless you have a policy that only pays ACV (actual cash value) on your roof, your insurance will pay for a professional contractor to remove and replace it. Don't use anyone who knocks on your door offering to help. Roofing scams abound when an area has a hail storm.

Also, don't roof over old shingles. Manufacturer warranties are almost worthless, but none warranty new shingles when installed over old.

 

[Gator6x4]

I think I would let professional roofers do it. My knees will not stand roofing anymore. Most roofers for labor cost, charge the cost per square to install. They also charge more for roofs over 4/12 pitch, two story, hip roofs and for architectural shingles.

Be sure to ask about the ridge vent and soffit vents when getting estimates. Also if you have a chimney ask about the flashing, do or will they use, aluminum, galvanized, cooper or stainless steel.

 

[mfreund]

Tear it off, back to wood. If you go over the old the shingles, the new shingles seem to last 1/2 as long. I used a roofing shovel to tear 3 layers off my house. I bought it at Menards. They make several different styles. Do not just buy the cheapest, look at them all and buy what seem to be the most comfortable to use on the angle of roof you have.

 

[Dr Dave]

Tear off is not that bad, get one of the tools made for this, they have a serated edge and adjustable handle for leverage.
After you tear off, and have you felt and water barior down, have roof top delivery, this is the worst part of the job.
Use knee pads, or a foam kneeling pad, your knees will thank you.

If you do not have the ridge vent get it, and cover the other roof top vents, make sure to have enough soffit vents also.
This will extend your shingle life.

Siding is tough to match, even if you have leftover. You need to do complete walls, because some fading has occured, even in a years time.

Check your gutters also, hail will dent them , loosen the mounting nails and cause seems to leak.

Dave

 

[TCJatko]

You may be considering doing it yourself to save money, and that's your right. That said, unless you have a policy that only pays ACV (actual cash value) on your roof, your insurance will pay for a professional contractor to remove and replace it. Don't use anyone who knocks on your door offering to help. Roofing scams abound when an area has a hail storm.

Also, don't roof over old shingles. Manufacturer warranties are almost worthless, but none warranty new shingles when installed over old.

I agree that your insurer should pay for tearoff and replacement of the roof. Hire a professional; get some references first.

 

[woodlandfarms]

We have a shallow pitch, but we used a roofing shovel. We put tarps along the house (it is REALLY messy) and pulled those out when the got a enough in them. Get your dumpster as close as possible. I would say hire kids but the risk of injury is higher of course. It sucks, it is really hard on the body.

Make sure shingles are delivered to your roof.

As we have flat / shallow roof lines on our homes we intend to use EPDM next time around.

 

[Woody65]

We charge between $300 and $400 per square (100 sq ft) . The price difference takes into account the pitch of the roof, number of valleys and rakes along with the height of the home. That would include the removal and disposal of the old shingles, installation of ice shield, felt paper and 30 yr architectural shingles. I am located on Long Island in the NYC area for comparison.

 

[JimRB]

We have had roofs replaced because of hail and wind damage. Insurance company gets with roofer and agrees on price. I pay my $500 deductible. Well I did upgrade my barn roof shingles to heavier duty and paid another $1,000 out of pocket. I installed the barn shingles the first time. If the wind had not damaged things I would have gotten another 5-10 years. I have better things to do than install shingles especially when the insurance company will pay (via my years of premiums) to replace including tear off.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

thanks for the suggestions. I'm gonna get some more prices. It will be a tear off, will not shingle over. I have seamless gutters, they get replaced also. At $200 sq for just labor, that's $3.12 per shingle to remove and install.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

We charge between $300 and $400 per square (100 sq ft) . The price difference takes into account the pitch of the roof, number of valleys and rakes along with the height of the home. That would include the removal and disposal of the old shingles, installation of ice shield, felt paper and 30 yr architectural shingles. I am located on Long Island in the NYC area for comparison.

thanks for sharing the costs.

 

[dex3361]

I had the garage and the house roof damaged by hail about 4 years ago. I chose t take the insurance check and upgraded to metal roofing on both the house and garage. I have been impressed with how the metal roofs held up in the hail storms.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Picture of some of the hail in the yard. picture of the house when I was building. I was holding my 2 yr old, who is now a HS Senior.

 

[clemsonfor]

I would allow the insurance company to do it. That is hard labor and i know you know that since you did it once.

Thats the point of insurance is to pay for your investment and or time that was involved with it. They will pay to do it, unless you just want to keep that few thousand dollars and do it yourself?

 

[schmism]

if you have the insurance do it make shure you watch the roofing company closely.

I have 2 personal friends that were almost ripped off by the roofing companies that the insurance companies hire. Both times the product delivered (and on one occasion half installed) was not the product that the homeowner and insurance company agreed on as a replacement. (ie agreed on 25 year shingle, what was going on was a cheep 15 year... with the roofing company keeping the difference in $$)

If my friends hadnt been prudent enough to check the packageing on the product delivered, they would have never known. Usually these jobs are done in 1-2 days tops so its not like you have a lot time.

 

[clemsonfor]

I have insurance and had my roof replaced nor than a year ago. The let me hire who I wanted. To do the work. They paid me half upfront then the balance when i t was completed. I paid the contractor nothing till he was through. It took a few weeks to finish I think. They did my main roof but had to order some rubber for some flat portions as well as the well house and a tiny porch roof area. They did the main house then those other odd jobs which took almost another. Day, like a week and a half after they started. I gave them the half check then requested. The second check from insurance to pay off.

Sorry for random periods I'm on my phone e.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I'm using an amish guy I know. He just built a building for our church including doing the roof. He does great work. I got him to reduce his price some to fit what the insurance will cover. I'm buying all the material. I've already ordered the shingles for delivery and picked up the ice shield and underlayment. He starts in a week.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Who would have thought it would be so hard to get a porta pot delivered. My wife wants me to get a portapot so the roofers I"m hiring don't have to use the house facilities. First place I called wanted $150 a week. Then someone told me of another place that charges $80 for a month, so went to their web site, gave them all my info including my address, and asked for a price quote. They emailed back and asked where I needed the portapot, so I emailed them my address a second time. Now my post office is in the next county, but I live in a county they service, but they responded they don't serve the next county over. So I responded, good, I don't live in that county, I live in this county that you said you will service. So they emailed back again, asking where I needed the portapot, and said they would check to see if they could provide one. So I have now given them my address for the 3rd time in email, and I have given it 2 times on phone messages. rant off, unless you ask about the dumpster delivery.