Grapple Opinions Again

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Appears it can handle the weight for sure

Here is even more weight :D it was picking the rear of the loader up as I took it away. Oak tree stump

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Must be a time thing, I can now upload pics Yea
 
/ Grapple Opinions Again #22  
I have no idea how many minutes/feet my tractor has carried a load with one back tire off the ground.
 
/ Grapple Opinions Again #23  
I have the same LP grapple as Oosik. Mine is a bit wider I believe, but they are essentially the same. Very well built (for skid steers) and take a beating. Most times my biggest fear is snapping the logs in 1/2. I agree get a heavier grapple. I would look for around 800+ lbs.

Dual lids? I would not make a recommendation for this without explaining the reasons. Dual lids are great if you are grabbing uneven loads (say a tree with thicker butt end). The claws will close at different widths, but keep the log level in the grapple. A balanced load is very important when you have things sticking out both sides :).

I dont like the dual lids, because I can easily compensate for it by grabbing in the right place. Also you cant use these for back dragging, which is a great benefit to the claw style Oosik and I have.

That said, you have to decide what works for you. One thing is for sure, we all love our grapples!
 
/ Grapple Opinions Again #24  
I use the L bottom in float mode and reverse for leveling:

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/ Grapple Opinions Again #25  
I agree with the others that grapples are cool and extremely usefull but if you decide to buy one, do your research on what style will work best for YOU and your situation, not what works best for others and their situations. Buy it for what purpose you want to do with it. Forums like this are a great resource for information on stuff like this because everyone has different opinions and uses for different grapples. Lots of members here have great info and way more experience with grapples than I ever will, but heres my experiences of when I was in the situation you are in now. I did my research, got advice from different forums and still made the wrong choice. It seemed that the majority of the responses I got was to get a bucket style (L bottom) grapple because they are a more universal type of grapple and can perform the similar tasks as a clam style plus more because of the added capacity of the bucket. That is true, however, I did find out that what the bucket style (L bottom) grapple does do well, is NOT what I wanted it to do well in the first place, clamp smaller objects tightly. I got caught up in all the things that bucket style grapples can do and that took away from the main purpose of why I wanted/needed a grapple in the first place. I was thinking more along the lines of a clam style because I was wanting to clamp tightly onto objects like smaller logs and such. I found a decent deal on a bucket style that seemed to good to pass up, and I am not happy with it because it doesn't do well what I want it to do. So it gets frustrating when I use it. I can't slip it into a pile of logs and scoop up just one specific log. Don't get me wrong, it will do it but not as easy as I would like. It does pick up brush very well. I found that out with the wind storm we had last summer where I had several trees come down on my property. I looked hard at the pallet fork add on grapple like the Cotech because I think it would have worked well for my intended purpose but decided against it because I wanted a dedicated grapple, I even looked at forestry grapples like the Igland GR20, Sundowner GR40 and the Frostbite which are a dedicated log grapple built for my intended purpose, but decided against them for whatever reason. The grapple I did get was a killer deal and it wouldn't be hard to modify it so it would do what I want it to do, so it will eventualy get modified to work better of my needs. I will turn it into a clam style which will IMHO work better for what I need. I bought it at an auction and for what I paid for it, I could'nt have even bought the material to build it.
Nobody's fault but my own. I knew what I wanted but I didn't follow my gut feeling.
Hope this helps
 
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/ Grapple Opinions Again #26  
I like what stomper wrote. You need to figure out the function that is most important to you and choose the tool accordingly. In my case grubbing out surface roots and backdragging were most important, along with ease of moving around in bushes and trees. I don't need to move big logs or big anything for that matter. So I got a small land pride clamshell. Perfect for my uses. For some types of loads it does tend to drop stuff out, but with practice you can compensate somewhat.
 

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/ Grapple Opinions Again #27  
I created a thread to show shoppers the strengths/abilities of various grapple styles and configurations. It includes many pics to show what each is capable of: Which Grapple? A guide.

I gladly help people every day to match the perfectly sized and shaped grapple to their tractor and applications. We have a very wide range of models to pick from, so the result is ideal. No settling for less than optimal is the ultimate result when you choose a grapple by EA.
Our grapples are composed of the best combination of premium materials on the market along with proven designs and no corners are cut. They aren't for those simply looking at price or what you'd call "economy" models. Wicked grapples are intended for those who are after the best for their dollar, USA Made, most photographed and reviewed grapples on the market.

Our latest Wicked 66 root rake grapple is a breakthrough in the utility grapple segment. This highly functional work of art features serrated AR450 steel tines and thick walled DOM tubing, which is not found on any other grapple out there.
It weighs under 700 pounds to maximize the intended tractor's agility and lift capacity. We recommend it for Utility Tractors up to around 100 hp and we tested it on our M6-141 Kubota to ensure it's ready for our customers.

I'll share a few pics of this awesome grapple and will be glad to assist any of you guys!
Travis

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For the green guys! John Deere 5083E with global carrier. We also offer it with the JD 500 Series quick attach!

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Testing video with our Beastly M6

 
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There is no one better then you at posting pics
 
/ Grapple Opinions Again #29  
There is no one better then you at posting pics

Thank you, sir.

My son is learning to read and he doesn't even want to look at a book with no pictures. :laughing:

I've always heard that a picture is worth 1,000 words, and I'm very fortunate to have a folder titled "customer pics" with 113 subfolders and 3,609 total files on my hard drive. Man, that's a LOT of words!! :thumbsup:
As I say very often in the Everything Attachments Channel...EA Customers ROCK!
Travis

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/ Grapple Opinions Again #30  
I give Xfaxman credit for kick starting my picture posting ability several years ago. Thanks, dude!
Travis
 
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/ Grapple Opinions Again #32  
:thumbsup: Please give us an update after you use it some.
 
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Received the 3rd function kit from WR Long out of NC. The valve is kind of large (20 GPM flow) and mounts on the right side of the tractor on the outside. Says to remove the bolts holding the connectors for the FEL and then use their boats to reinstall. Don't really like it on the outside, but just reading thru the instructions. Will post some pics when I start to install. Currently doing other things.

Have not received the grapple from MTL and on the phone, they said that it would be shipped out either 22nd or 25th. Asked on the 26th if there was any tracking info and received back they have a orange one which could go out today, or a black one which could go out tomorrow. Told them I don't care what color it is. SO far no tracking info
 
/ Grapple Opinions Again #34  
I am very curious how you like this (MTL X Series Talon grapple), seems very stout and very well priced. You can get this grapple and a forklift for what the average grapple costs...

I need a grapple that will pick up a single log out of a pile, most likely with the corner of the grapple. It looks like the corners are heavy duty and would perform this task well. This one also looks like the perfect combination of a single and double closure (top half). I don't like most double/dual top grapples because it only covers a portion of the bottom. This one overlaps the bottom just like a one piece top. Plus the full back plate! Me likey!!
 
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I'm looking forward to using it, have some dead trees and other brush which need to be cleaned up. If I can ever get notification of shipment
 
/ Grapple Opinions Again #36  
Yesterday I cranked the Kubota, loaded a pile of construction trash onto the trash wagon, hauled and spread half a dump truck load of gravel, parked the tractor back in the machine shed. All without leaving the seat. Love my bucket style Grapple. :)
 
/ Grapple Opinions Again #38  
Bought the MTL X Series Talon grapple yesterday, weights about 1100 for the 72 inch. Decided on it because it has a solid plate across the back. This should help keep some of the sticks/limbs from getting to the grill. Think I will make a plate to cover the grill as well.

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Bought the 3rd function remote from Barlow in Somerset. Heck the 3rd function cost about half what the grapple did.

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Nice looking grapple. I'd be interested to see how it works out for you after a year of using it. Guess they need to ship it to you first. :)
 
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Got a call today from Old Dominion, letting me know they will be out tomorrow around 1PM. Mentioned to the dispatcher that I have a folklift, and he laughs and says the driver is going to love you, it weights 1100. Guess he wasn't told that I had one. Who knows it might be the Orange one

So started installing the WR Long 3rd function.

Installed the Electric/Hydraulic valve
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Found the right line, it has a Green dot on the loader valve.
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Disconnected from the other end and connected to "P" input on valve. Had that hooked up and later swapped ends because the loader valve end had a 90 fitting on the line. In latter pic, you can see the 90 on the WR valve. Found it worked better for routing, and since the loader valve also used a 90 fitting, I was able to line it up better
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The P fitting on the Wr valve came with an adapter for a AN-8 flare, which was needed.
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Routed 4 new 4 ft line from the "T" fitting on the WR valve back to where the first line was removed
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Had to loosen the bolts holding the WR valve because there was not enough room to connect the 3rd function lines. Loosen and twist to get as much room as possible and just managed to get it to connect. They have room, could just move the valve closer to the cab about 1/4 inch would do it. Will probably give we some issues later when it moves
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Removing the original handle was the hardest, on the install. Once removed set screws and easy install. Wrapped the cable around and went behind the plastic cover, then out thru the hole with the FEL cables.
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Don't like the little light weight connector. Once install was complete I put RTV over the connector to keep moisture
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Ran the power up to the fuse panel. Noticed that there is a Red/Black wire feeding each side of the fuses. Took one and spliced into
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/ Grapple Opinions Again #40  
I bet you are happy to know the grapple is being delivered tomorrow, like a kid on Christmas morning!!

Reply from previous post;
If money was no thing, I would certainly buy one of those (Frostbite or a Sundown GR40 grapple.). By the time either is shipped they cost $2000... I do have a way of justifying stuff like this so who knows, lol!

Thank you for the information, now I know its an option!!
 
 

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