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   / Good morning!!!! #54,961  
PJ Used to stay at the Black River Lodge in Sept and float the Black River in inner tubes. Was still living in St Charles and working in North STL when the upper Tom Sauk reservoir failed, man that tore up the valley :eek: :thumbdown:

Buppies are you talking about the east coast or midwest as well?
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,962  
Here's some background on the Oroville Dam. The height of the dam itself is 742', one of the highest if not the highest earthen dams in the country. It was built in 1968 and first filled the next year. It has a capacity of 3,537,577 acre feet of water. The maximum fill level is 901 feet above sea level, same as the entrance to the emergency spillway.

Here's some current info:
Current height of the water is 887', just 14' below the emergency spillway, and up 7' since 7 AM today, 12 hours ago. Current inflow is 189,579 CFS, outflow 42,375 CFS. If inflow and outflow stay the same as it is right now, water will reach the emergency spillway by this time tomorrow. Keep in mind that the V shape of the canyon means that every additional foot of water rise requires proportionally more water to achieve, and the inflow rate seems to be dropping as the rain lets up. But without increased outflow rate, even two days before reaching the emergency spillway is optimistic. Crews have been clearing brush and trees below the emergency spillway since last night in an effort to keep debris out of the Feather River and Thermalito Forebay.

The dam authority tested the main spillway yesterday afternoon at 15,000 CFS in an effort to asses what damage would occur through continued use. More of the spillway crumbled, but it has been determined that any additional damage will not compromise the integrity of the dam. One local expert estimates that most of the spillway will be destroyed, so it's a good thing California has money growing out of its ears. The construction jobs next summer will be good for the local economy. I've forwarded Eric's contact info to the Dam folks in case they need a siphon consultant.:laughing:

The best coverage is coming out of Redding TV station KRCR. Latest reports are that the hole had doubled in size from yesterday's 185' x 250' and 45' deep. KRCR is also reporting that earlier today, mandatory evacuations were ordered along the Upper Sacramento River in Northern Shasta County and Southern Siskiyou County. This included areas in the towns of Castella, Sweetbriar and Dunsmuir. The evacuation orders were lifted at 6PM as water levels started to drop.

2017-2-9.jpg [video]http://www.veoh.com/watch/v117613376GWdHfKkE[/video]

For my part, I don't think I've ever seen so much water coming over the falls across the side canyon to the north of here. I can hear the water anywhere inside the house, and it's pretty loud outside.

It's a good thing I I cancelled my trip to town as we've picked up more than 2.5" of rain since midnight. I'm not worrying about flooding here, as the property is 200' above the top of the dam/reservoir. But I noticed that the article Eric cited yesterday mentioned a 1975 earthquake just south of Oroville Dam. When I looked into seismic activity in this area prior to buying the property, I found that scientists think the quake was caused when large water releases that summer let the earth under the reservoir spring back when the water weight was removed. Apparently there have been enough fill and drain cycles since then that no further quakes have occurred. Apparently the insurance companies are also aware of this, and earthquake insurance would have been only a quarter of what I used to pay in the San Francisco Bay Area. I decided not to buy it for this place since the house is built on solid rock over a concrete slab foundation.

Anyway, the biggest part of the rain seems to have passed, with maybe another half inch due before things dry up tomorrow night. Forecasts call for some sunny days starting Saturday, but by Wednesday night we'll be in for more, perhaps as much as an inch per day through the weekend. That's not much time for a fix, and my guess is they'll instead choose to keep drawing down the reservoir in hopes of managing possible floods from the coming rain.

Oh, and it was announced today that the all knowing Poobahs in Sacramento have decided to leave the drought inspired water conversation rules in place for the summer. Perhaps they haven't had enough flooding downtown yet to get their attention?:confused2:
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,963  
2017-02-10, 0312

Minus 1 degree right now...high will be about 10 with another frigid night tonight. Got to get diesel tonight or tomorrow morning...almost ran out when clearing the drive late yesterday.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,964  
Good morning all, the sun is still in hiding here and although it is the right temperature for snow and has been falling in other areas, it isn't happening here.

While we are talking of dams, did you all here the story of Don Miller, who almost came to grief while working on a little dam ?

Dan Miller.jpg . :eek:

Australian man trapped in pond with nose just above water - BBC News
 
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   / Good morning!!!! #54,965  
17 and bright moon light bouncing off the shiny crystals painted by Jack Frost last night. Should hit 42.

Our 3 sons are coming to visit this weekend to help me celebrate my birthday a few days early. So we'll probably make a run into town for groceries, and maybe some lunch.

I went by TSC yesterday to look to see if they sold 3 pt tiller blades...I need 40 to do a complete replacement on my tiller. I didn't expect to find any there to fit my tiller (a Bush Hog model) but was surprised they didn't have any to even fit the tillers they sell...none on their website I could find, either. I guess no shelf space left over for those type parts. I started to order from a dealer in Poteet, TX, but found them at the local John Deere dealer for the same price.

I emailed both the Bush Hog company and a local Kubota dealership and was pleased I received replies within the hour...great customer service.

Eric, I couldn't get to that Daily telegraph article...wanted me to subscribe...but the photo looks crazy.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,968  
22 high of 47 later then 70 by Sunday this is some strange weather
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,969  
2F winds are quite for now low teens for high.
6" fresh snow last night to push here and there along w/couple snow drifts.
Takes longer plow driveway parking area etc. than Kubota,but the pickup sure lot more warmer tho..

Friday :dance1: more snow on the way this weekend.

Enjoy the day all.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,970  
22 high of 47 later then 70 by Sunday this is some strange weather
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Want to swap.;)
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,971  
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Want to swap.;)

It might be nice for a change as we have basically had no winter here. The tractor is jealous of all your snow. He has stayed in the garage more this winter than in a long time
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,972  
Great story. When my wife gets up this morning, I'll get her to teach me the cobra position, just in case.

I do not think I want to know how to do that
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,973  
20 out this AM. Slight dusting of snow, still in place. It was a wild weather ride these past few days and the weekend looks no different.

Heading out to Richmond later, man, I don't like I95.

Have a great day all, be safe.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,974  
a cold for us 25 degrees, coldest so far this winter, going up to only 47 today on a clear cold day. Then sixties tomorrow and seventies on Sunday.

Today I go down and undo the large wrapped package with 24 trees in it, over ten feet long, that gives me hope I got some trees in there that might be bigger than 6-7 feet advertised. I want to find the two sweet cherry trees and get them planted in the orchard this weekend. The rest I am waiting for a friend to come and help me with.
going to call Willis Orchard Co and get some planting and care instructions. If the trees are dormant, not sure if I need to water them (spray the trunks and bare roots?) before they get planted. Probably will just before planting anyway. Not doing anything until it warms up tomorrow.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,975  
Good morning! 51˚ heading to 70˚ cloudy. No weather news here just a bit warm for February our coldest month. I'm delaying the north permitter trail for a week to take a break so I don't get burned out.

I need to cut in some drainage ditches on the road going up the hill and I need to put on the 7' blade and use the offset adjustment. That's twice this year I needed it so I might just keep it.

People are continuing to set fires to brush piles and neighbors are a bit edgy and calling the VFDs. 4 times yesterday the surrounds fire trucks were turned around before they got the location by the dispatchers telling them it was a control burn. Our fire station is covers the most remote part of the county and has not been affected by the control burns, yet.

RNG how many homes downstream would be washed away if the dam broke?
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,976  
20 going to 37 today, the wind died down but breezy later I hear.

Buppies, keep that winter away! LOL Yeah, I was lucky, I could have been hurt, but all in all it was funny, like when I fell off the ladder and crushed the heater a few years back while installing garage door openers.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,977  
4 below when I got up and we are looking for a high of 14 and an inch of snow starting about noon. Another 5-10cm/4-5" coming overnight and ending near noon. When the weather guy says 2 cm, I interpret that as 2 inches. He is confused about cm/in.
If it isn't a chance of snow, then it is snow flurries all week.
You guys on the east coast stay safe.
Today is p.o.e.t.i.s day.
piss off early tomorrow is saturday
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,978  
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People are continuing to set fires to brush piles and neighbors are a bit edgy and calling the VFDs. 4 times yesterday the surrounds fire trucks were turned around before they got the location by the dispatchers telling them it was a control burn. Our fire station is covers the most remote part of the county and has not been affected by the control burns, yet.

In your area, do you have to call in the burns? We do, and however it works, the FD is not dispatched, so it must work good.


One big deal was the Marine Corp base not telling the neighboring counties they had a really big controlled burn going. There were responders running all up and down the roads that day.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,979  
Happy birthday wngsprd! Hope it is memorable.

Off today, added Irish cream to coffee....Woohoo


Wifey and I are going on our Valentine's date today since the 14th is a weekday.

Waiting for roofer to come get measurements any day.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #54,980  
Coffee just finished brewing. 59° with clear skies this morning. Heading to 84° with a few clouds. Sure was nice setting on patio enjoying the warm weather. Took wife to a Eagles tribute show yesterday evening. Our kind of music. Today is another day of enjoying the good weather.
Enjoy reading the different dam reports. But some very scary possible results if they fail.
Good Morning All.
 

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