GM recalls 721K trucks with 6.2L engine

[Renze]

So we have Toyota with basically the same problem in their 3.5 TT motors.

GM deserves to go out of business if their solution is this pathetic.

GM gets government bailouts. Toyota not. Maybe thats whats wrong with Detroit... And why Europe doesnt buy from Detroit..

 

[part-time-Farmer-NC]

For me depends on if I am hauling my boat or not. With the boat 13mpg or about .22 cts a mile @2.90 a gallon. I haul the boat/mule around often just weekends. The other 85% of my mileage is about 22-24mpg or about .131 cts a mile using 22mpg. I haven't done an actual mileage per tank on it, which is a better overall more accurate number.

Using say 25mg for diesel I think I last saw it at 3.47 a gallon its about .138 cts a mile Not sure what the mpg for hauling my boat/mule around would be if I had a diesel. But just driving around its nearly a wash but cheaper in gas costs alone. 13,181.00 per 100K miles vs 13,880.00 for diesel.

Also adding the def as required, no idea what that costs there is per mile.

Math just doesn't equate to a savings for me.

 

[part-time-Farmer-NC]

I buy vehicles 10 years old when the well used ones of that build have proven reliable.

Buying new vehicles doesnt automatically mean you get less problems

Ditto, usually for me too.

 

[Hay Dude]

BIL just bought a 2024 a few months ago. I believe it has the same motor.

With diesels, its not only the upfront costs of the motor upgrade, but every time at the pump. Around here its about 50-60 cts a gallon more expensive and more frequent oil changes. Most people never realize the savings as they trade out the vehicles after 4-6 yrs.

I do love a diesel though, especially the looks of a dually. Just can't justify the extra costs.

The oil changes are not more frequent anymore.

 

[part-time-Farmer-NC]

The oil changes are not more frequent anymore.

Ah. Didn't know that. Everything I had read must pertain to the older models I guess. It has been about 5-7 yrs since I ran the numbers (when choosing my next ride). The DEF thing is a thing I personally don't want to have to deal with too. Which is why should I go diesel I would opt for an older model.

 

[Hay Dude]

For me depends on if I am hauling my boat or not. With the boat 13mpg or about .22 cts a mile @2.90 a gallon. I haul the boat/mule around often just weekends. The other 85% of my mileage is about 22-24mpg or about .131 cts a mile using 22mpg. I haven't done an actual mileage per tank on it, which is a better overall more accurate number.

Using say 25mg for diesel I think I last saw it at 3.47 a gallon its about .138 cts a mile Not sure what the mpg for hauling my boat/mule around would be if I had a diesel. But just driving around its nearly a wash but cheaper in gas costs alone. 13,181.00 per 100K miles vs 13,880.00 for diesel.

Also adding the def as required, no idea what that costs there is per mile.

Math just doesn't equate to a savings for me.

Def costs me about $10/month based on 12,000 miles driven/yr.
Maybe one 2 gallon jug a month.
It’s a tiny expense compared to what I see other spend in pick up windows, soda, junk food, etc.

It takes about 5 minutes to add and it’s very easy.

 

[Hay Dude]

Ah. Didn't know that. Everything I had read must pertain to the older models I guess. It has been about 5-7 yrs since I ran the numbers (when choosing my next ride). The DEF thing is a thing I personally don't want to have to deal with too. Which is why should I go diesel I would opt for an older model.

Its not the frequency of changes, it’s the cost per change being higher. Diesel filters and extra oil costs a little more.

For me, it’s a matter of GCWR. No gas truck can pull what a Cummins can, and more importantly, last as long pulling the higher weights.

If you don’t tow high GCWR, gas is a better choice.

 

[WM75Guy]

I paid $95 to get my 3.0L Duramax serviced at the GMC dealer last Saturday, new Service Manager must have used the gas motor coupon. That included rotating the tires. With their service special coupon the 6.2L shows to be $109.99, so roughly the same as the diesel. Even using the diesel coupon is no big deal. All my vehicles get serviced once or twice a year so it is not a big hit on the wallet. Plus, I get points on my GM Owner's Rewards account and my GM Card to help pay for it.

 

[sd455dan]

No, there is not a new design, it is the exact same component design, just now with better surface finish on the crankshaft, and no debris left in the oiling passages. IE, basic quality control.

GM does not produce and keep an inventory of thousands of old spare engines just in case. You may have heard that in early failures of these '21-'24 6.2L engines, there were simply not any new spare engines available to swap in.

If you get an engine swap now, it is not some old leftover engine that will have the exact same issues (I mean, it always still could, but any replacements is now a NEW/'25 version).

That super thin 5W or 0W-20 weight is a Horrible idea for under/Non polished cranks, what happened to micro-polished bearing surfaces and washing the da-n blocks out. Sounds like an efficiency "expert" engineer- bean counter and short term profitability, won again over repeat customers because of long lasting quality and reliability.

The damage to brand is far worse than the extra expense, I mean What does "We are Professional Grade" Mean?

I predict the companies using wet belts to drive oil pumps will be making the news more frequently when age and miles stack up as well for Ford etc.

 

[mrmikey]

I predict the companies using wet belts to drive oil pumps will be making the news more frequently when age and miles stack up as well for Ford etc.

Yup, another ridiculous, money saving idea not to mention the size of it. I've seen bigger belts on a sewing machine.