Gear drive vs hydro

[Reg]

All right you frugal gear heads....

You give the argument that you bought your new gear tractor because you wanted the most hp for your buck....

(with the exception of Soundguy, who seems to be frugal AND smart about his purchases) If you really, really worried so much about your precious cash, you would have bought a used machine in good shape VS a new machine. After all, gears last forever, right? Now justify your way out of that one you money wasters.

And don't give me any warranty, schmorranty excuses either. I want real justification as to why you spent so much money. You could have bought a lot of implements if you wouldn't have shelled out the big bucks for a new machine

Common.... let's hear it.

Who sed nu ?

 

[jake98]

Where do the breakes issues start. Hydro guys don't even unbolt them do they.. wake me up when we get to...

jake

ps or are all of you unaware of the split brake syndrome. Do we really have to start a new thread if we want to talk about the hydro feet jig brake??

 

[tallyho8]

Out of curiosity, since you have the ehydro, what is it about it that you do not like and do you think you would prefer deere's AutoHST to their ehydro?

 

[jk96]

ps or are all of you unaware of the split brake syndrome. Do we really have to start a new thread if we want to talk about the hydro feet jig brake??

Jake - are you talking about having the split brakes on the same side as the hydro pedal? My DX45 has the pedal on the right foot and brakes on the left.

My prior tractor, DX33, had the split brakes on the same side as the pedal. Not sure what genious at Case came up with this idea but at least someone that designed my 45 had a little more common sense.

 

[dirtworksequip]

I just had better control over the geared tractor and knew exactly what it was going to do in a given situation. Sometimes the ehyro will act in a way I had not anticipated.Maybe it's just me. When I am inching up sometimes it will stop before I want it to. I guess I don't like the roll out. To me a hystat should stop dead when the control goes to nuetral.
I had 2000+ hours on the geared JD870 and only 350 hours on the ehyro 3520. Will I like the ehydro any better when it has 2000 hours on it? Not sure. My 13 year old son also liked the geared tractor better than the ehydro. I would have to try out an auto style ehydro before I could say I liked it any better than the ehydro as I have not been on one yet.
Seemed like the 28hp geared had more power than the 37hp ehydro. I should have hooked them up drawbar to drawbar when I still owned both tractors.
I will say that I owned a Cat D3G hystat and loved it. So, its not that I have anything against hystat transmissions.

Sincerely, Dirt

 

[Egon]

Ohh dear; me thinks that under the guise of academic integrity that we have all have been led down the garden path!

 

[jake98]

Ohh dear; me thinks that under the guise of academic integrity that we have all have been led down the garden path!

Is that from the Dude on top of that picture?

Where the hay were you yesterday when we all needed you??

 

[Chuck K.]

anyone want to hear my HST stories???

 

[jake98]

Well I do, maybe I'm the only idoit that doesn't know what the smiley faces are for, but what the hey, I'll bite. Let's hear'um. jm

 

[scott_vt]

anyone want to hear my HST stories???

Good Mornin Chuck,
Sure why not Chuck, if we dont like what we hear, I will just PM N80 and he will take care of it for me !!!

 

[Egon]

[QUOTEIs that from the Dude on top of that picture?][/QUOTE]

No it's not.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Out of curiosity, since you have the ehydro, what is it about it that you do not like and do you think you would prefer deere's AutoHST to their ehydro?

What is an ehydro? Is it a type of HST? How is it different for the operator?
thanks,larry

 

[patrick_g]

I understand why you threw that in.

No you don't, obviously! Apparently you just didn't GET IT.


It is the oldest diversion in the book.

No it isn't. Again you just didn't get it.

Anyone not star struck by the latest technology is branded a Luddite.

Again not true. Not everyone.

I don't understand why you think it is a cogent or even an applicable argument to this discussion. It has no application here.

Again you don't get it.

1) It assumes that someone who does not favor one technology does not favor any technology. That is clearly not the case here.

Not what was expressed, intended, or communicated to most.

So the 'electric starter' argument is not valid in this context.

OK, check your blood pressure. Is it up? I was just yanking your chain, pushing your buttons. It has been a long time since anything I posted or read in this thread has been of any real interest except for the entertainment value. George against the world, defending his comments as sacred text against all comers. Amazing isn't is how everyone with the slightest different opinion from yours could be so terribly misguided. Clearly a case of little Johny being in step but the rest of the army being out of step.

Watching this is almost like watching someone pester a scorpion till it finally gets frenzied enough to sting itself.

You want truth? Here is some truth. Everyone is free to tractor as they wish with whatever equipment they can come by. If they prefer a mismatched arrangement (task vs tractor) for any reason other than a logically defensible one then too bad, so sad but folks employ the wrong tools for the wrong reasons all the time.

Not having the best match and making do with what you have or can get is reality for most of us. That doesn't change the BEST fit of tool vs task it just changes your tool vs task. There is nothing wrong with improvising a solution or getting by when a better way is not available for some reason. Where I take exception is when religious fervor is applied to defend a choice of tool selection that was made for other than best fit.

I'd love to have THE BEST tool for every job but sometimes make do with HF cheap Chinese as a matter of practicality. It is unlikely however, that I will build up a head of pressure and take on the world to defend my tool selection as the BEST choice for my situation and certainly not for universal application by every "right minded" individual in the world..

Again, somewhat entertaining (this thread) but it hasn't advanced usable applicable understanding for quite a while, at least since it has become yet another ongoing soap opera sub titled "The George Show."

Blast away, This should be better than JOTD.

Pat (Putting on my Nomex longies)

 

[SPYDERLK]

Pat (Putting on my Nomex longies)

N80 just made the mistake of taking your post seriously Pat. Im hoping you didnt.
larry

 

[tallyho8]

What is an ehydro? Is it a type of HST? How is it different for the operator?
thanks,larry

John Deere makes two kinds of HST transmissions, the ehydro and the AutoHST. I know little about them since I have a Kubota but I believe the eHydro has two foot pedals, one for forward and one for reverse and the AutoHST has one pedal that makes it go and you have a shift lever to go from forward to reverse. This is the main difference as far as I know. Someone who has one may be able to tell us more.

 

[RWolf]

Come on Chuck I'd like to hear.

This last week I was moving loading hay (1500+lb round bales) and was using both my JD and a Ford 455C HST and although "if" I was doing loader work on a constant basis then the HST "would" be easier. However I felt that the Ford was sluggish in all operations. Now it might have been the age and hours and possibly maintenance that lead me to that assessment. Between the two I think I'd still prefer my JD shuttle-shift.

 

[lawn_king]

Having owned and operated both for years, i love my kubota hydros, however, my international gear tractors were indestructible!

 

[dirtworksequip]

The Deere ehydro's have an electric reostat switch hooked to the travel pedals instead of a linkage to control the hyd. flow for the transmission.

Sincerely, Dirt

 

[Egon]

I'd like one of them new D10 caterpillars with a manual transmission I would!