Gas Fireplace Logs

[ragkar]

If you have vented logs, you had better open that damper for your own safety. Also I recommend that you get a carbon monoxide detector.

I've had non-vented logs for about eight years. Last year I decided to buy a 55 inch tv and mount it on the wall above the fireplace. But I was concerned about heat affecting the electronics. So I got an indoor-outdoor digital thermometer and taped the probe onto a broomstick. then I probed around the area there the tv was going to be mounted 3.5 feet above the fireplace opening..

It's hard to tell, but it looks like your mantle is flush with the wall. Mine has a seven inch offset from the wall and that helps keep the updraft off the tv.

 

[JB4310]

I know that different size logs have different clearances to combustible mat. but that wood looks close to the opening to me. They make a heat deflector shield (black or brass )you can purchase to divert the heat away from your mantle

They recommend a hood if your combustibles fall below the minimum clearances, but mine are supposed to be good. 8 inches to the wood and 20 inches for a mantel that sticks out 6 inches, may have to consider the deflector though. or just crack the damper.

If you have vented logs, you had better open that damper for your own safety. Also I recommend that you get a carbon monoxide detector.

I've had non-vented logs for about eight years. Last year I decided to buy a 55 inch tv and mount it on the wall above the fireplace. But I was concerned about heat affecting the electronics. So I got an indoor-outdoor digital thermometer and taped the probe onto a broomstick. then I probed around the area there the tv was going to be mounted 3.5 feet above the fireplace opening..

It's hard to tell, but it looks like your mantle is flush with the wall. Mine has a seven inch offset from the wall and that helps keep the updraft off the tv.

This is definitely vent less, sorry I didn't mention that.
32,000 btus. alot of heat pours out the top of the fireplace.

I do have a co detector in that room. I'm a little paranoid about gas, I may turn off the tank every night, but that's a big inconvenience. Everyone has them with the pilots on year round probably.

11 inch WC or about 0.8 psi I think.

JB

 

[k0ua]

It would be a good idea for the gas supplier to test the connections, they can test for leakage at the tank with a sensitive instrument. Or so mine said, he put it on for a period of time when I finished my installation and said all is well. I had tested it with air for a period of a week and it held the pressure I put in it. Of course this was before the hookup of the appliances. I tested all the connections again myself with soap solution anyway. My tank has not been turned off for several years now.. by the way there is some smell from the logs themselves for about 12 hours or so.

James K0UA

 

[JB4310]

It would be a good idea for the gas supplier to test the connections, they can test for leakage at the tank with a sensitive instrument. Or so mine said, he put it on for a period of time when I finished my installation and said all is well. I had tested it with air for a period of a week and it held the pressure I put in it. Of course this was before the hookup of the appliances. I tested all the connections again myself with soap solution anyway. My tank has not been turned off for several years now.. by the way there is some smell from the logs themselves for about 12 hours or so.

James K0UA

How about a sediment trap, do you have one?
All the illustrations show a sediment trap close to the appliance.

I just hooked this up with a flex line right to the tank for now to see if I even liked it, so there are no connections in the house except at the fireplace.

I will probably bring in black pipe all the way to the chimney, and just use the flex inside the chimney.

How to you connect to your regulator, from the house pipe, a rubber line?
And do you have a shut off out side, so you don't lose pressure when you change tanks? (maybe you have the LP delivered) took 20 minutes to purge the line with just holding the pilot button, A big PITA I don't want to have to do every time.

Also in my directions they show the regulator vertical on the side of the tank instead of just horizontal, attached to the tank valve. Showing the vent downwards, any idea how important that is?

Sorry for all the questions

Thanks JB.

 

[k0ua]

Ok let see how many of these I can answer:

How about a sediment trap, do you have one?nope, is it a good idea, yep.
All the illustrations show a sediment trap close to the appliance.

I just hooked this up with a flex line right to the tank for now to see if I even liked it, so there are no connections in the house except at the fireplace. my conncections are black pipe all thru the house, I went to 3 appliances, with shut off valves for each and an extra T and a shut off valve in line in front of it also. it punches thru the wall and stubbed pointing down. The gas company brought 5/8 copper from the tank to this connection (about 6 foot)and they made this final connection.

I will probably bring in black pipe all the way to the chimney, and just use the flex inside the chimney.

How to you connect to your regulator, from the house pipe, a rubber line? 5/8 copper, done by gas company.
And do you have a shut off out side, so you don't lose pressure when you change tanks? just the one on the tank(maybe you have the LP delivered)Yes took 20 minutes to purge the line with just holding the pilot button, A big PITA I don't want to have to do every time. have gas delivered when down to below 20%

Also in my directions they show the regulator vertical on the side of the tank instead of just horizontal, attached to the tank valve. Showing the vent downwards, any idea how important that is? I dont know, ask the gas company, they set the tank 120 gallon and made all outside connections, but I can tell you my regulator is Horizontal.

Sorry for all the questions no problem.. hope that helps James K0UA


Thanks JB.

 

[JB4310]

Ok let see how many of these I can answer:

Thanks,

JB

 

[k0ua]

Thanks,

JB

your very welcome

James K0UA

 

[JB4310]

I ran it a couple of hours last night, it seems to be the right fit for my needs/ wants. Definitely does not get to hot in the living room, that was one thing I was worried about, it gets to about 74 degrees. It looks good too.

It has not been that cold the last couple of days, but I can see by running it last night, you don't feel real hot even right in front of the fireplace, but the heat is pouring out the front going straight up to the ceiling, warms the room slowly then is circulating thru the house. not to hot in any one place but is raising the temp up, even upstairs. Overnight it was below freezing but the house was not that cold this morning to even need the central heating system. So it may actually save a little on our oil heat bill.

I've got the damper/flue cracked about 1/4 inch, which seems to have eliminated most of the perceptible "smell" which is really not a bad smell, but was just something noticeable in the air.

This homes heating system and needs are a little out of the ordinary. 75 year old house with 12 inch thick walls on the first floor, 2 courses of brick and plaster interior. Steam heating system that only goes on twice a day, morning and late afternoon, but stays on for over an hour each time, so we use as much oil as an average house this size.

The temps in the house are weird too, it will never drop below low 60's even on the coldest overnight, so it holds temperature fairly, well for surviving anyway, but never feels toasty warm either though, unless the the heat is on. So I think this gas-log will help make it toasty when we want it between the central heating systems cycles, like the middle of the day or in the evening.

JB