Ford 6.0 TD Question

[timswi]

While at camp this past weekend we got on the subject of 6.0 diesels..While one guy did the pre-emptive repairs to his ford F350 6.0, the other guy followed the dealer recommendation when his failed which accounted for $5600 in repaiers (egr, turbo, coolers etc)...

Question...He wants to dump the truck now that the head gaskets blew and it needs head bolts ($3500 at the dealer)...Needless to say, he's PO'd as he asked them during the last repair if it needed this work and the dealer said no since it was from Canada...They were wrong....It's 2003 or 2004 6.0 TD F350 4x4 quad cab 8' bed...I never really went over it but from what I saw before and what I know about this guy, its nice. He wants 12k as it sits. Has 135K.

Is this a decent price?

 

[HHR]

Not a good price. If it was in good running order that would be a decent price.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Its 10 years old with normal miles but is a pre 05. I would pass. The 05 and later are much better trucks and I bet by the time the repairs are done you would be in it for what its worth.

Pass!

Chris

 

[timswi]

Its 10 years old with normal miles but is a pte 05. I would pass. The 05 and later are much better trucks and I bet by the time the repairs are done you would be in it for what its worth.

Pass!

Chris

Thanks, I looked it up on Edmunds and KBB and was rather surprised at what this is worth...Thought it would be higher than 14k or so although these things are almost impossible to value on those sites. The dealer got that for my 04 GMC post trade..Was going to fix, run for a while and sell (maybe) but not if there is no money to be had.

I'm going on camp memory on the year, but I think that it was either an 04 or 03.

 

[94BULLITT]

Do you remember what front end the truck had on it?

2004-
http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/09/03/19/51/2004_ford_f-250_super_duty_4_dr_lariat_4wd_crew_cab_sb-pic-46843.jpeg

2005-
http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2005-ford-super-duty-f-250-xl_100030683_m.jpg

In know a guy that paid 10K for 04 crew cab needing head gaskets with 160k on it. These trucks are bringing close to $17,000+ on the lot.

Get a estimate from the dealer to see what it would ost to fix and and go from there. I think I would try to get him down to $10,000.

 

[Peacock]

Do a Cummins swap and then you will want to keep it yourself.

Other than that I'd not have any interest in it unless you were positive you were getting a great deal.

 

[timswi]

Do you remember what front end the truck had on it?

2004-
http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/09/03/19/51/2004_ford_f-250_super_duty_4_dr_lariat_4wd_crew_cab_sb-pic-46843.jpeg

2005-
http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2005-ford-super-duty-f-250-xl_100030683_m.jpg

In know a guy that paid 10K for 04 crew cab needing head gaskets with 160k on it. These trucks are bringing close to $17,000+ on the lot.

Get a estimate from the dealer to see what it would ost to fix and and go from there. I think I would try to get him down to $10,000.

Looks more like the 04...Sounded to me that he's stuck on 12k. Dealer wants 3300 for the head gaskets and bolts. I'm sure I can do it cheaper or farm it out for less than that. I'm concerned about cylinder damage from the anti-freeze, but I don't know all of the details. He replaced everything else (turbo,coolers, egr et.al etc) for $5600 a year ago...The only thing that didn't get done was the bolts and gaskets. Dealer said it wasn't needed...That kinda concerns me about some dealers. Would be a nice truck to have for specialty needs. It is mint from what I've seen of it..I'm a GM guy so I never stared it down. He did go as far as putting a complete Leer cap with surround carpet in the bed, he's a picky dude about his trucks. I've never even seen it dirty---at camp.

If I can't turn at least 3k (fixed, all-in) if I buy it, I'm passing.

 

[mud23609]

Those trucks are regularly listed for sale in my area for 12 to 14k in running condition. I wouldn't personally go over seven for it and only if its in great shape. 6.0's are a hard sell especially the 03-04 trucks.

 

[WilliamBos]

I'd run equally fast from anything 6.0! Good friend of mine had an 07 F350, turned him off of Ford diesels, and he is a die hard Ford guy. The thought of $6,600 bill for head gaskets was the final straw.

A Ford tech that posts on youtube has good things to say about the 6.7L though.

Have you serviced a Ford 6.7L yet? I love the oil plug design, pretty cool idea.

Its 10 years old with normal miles but is a pre 05. I would pass. The 05 and later are much better trucks and I bet by the time the repairs are done you would be in it for what its worth.

Pass!

Chris

 

[94BULLITT]

Looks more like the 04...Sounded to me that he's stuck on 12k. Dealer wants 3300 for the head gaskets and bolts. I'm sure I can do it cheaper or farm it out for less than that. I'm concerned about cylinder damage from the anti-freeze, but I don't know all of the details. He replaced everything else (turbo,coolers, egr et.al etc) for $5600 a year ago...The only thing that didn't get done was the bolts and gaskets. Dealer said it wasn't needed...That kinda concerns me about some dealers. Would be a nice truck to have for specialty needs. It is mint from what I've seen of it..I'm a GM guy so I never stared it down. He did go as far as putting a complete Leer cap with surround carpet in the bed, he's a picky dude about his trucks. I've never even seen it dirty---at camp.

If I can't turn at least 3k (fixed, all-in) if I buy it, I'm passing.

For 12K you would be best off buying one that has been bullet proofed already.

 

[timswi]

Those trucks are regularly listed for sale in my area for 12 to 14k in running condition. I wouldn't personally go over seven for it and only if its in great shape. 6.0's are a hard sell especially the 03-04 trucks.

Surprisingly I'm seeing that from NADA, KBB and Edmunds...Way cheaper than I ever would have thought. A real shame to be honest. If I needed this, I'd take a chance but I need another vehicle like I need another you-know-what. Seems like too much risk for limited, if any, upside.

 

[94BULLITT]

You can't buy a f-250 4x4 ext cab with a 5.4 with a 100k on it here for $12k.

 

[timswi]

You can't buy a f-250 4x4 ext cab with a 5.4 with a 100k on it here for $12k.

Probably couldn't here either let alone an F350...Got that much for a 1/2 ton GMC 4x4 xcab 5.3 with 90k on trade..Sat on the dealer lot for 14,900 for two days and gone..

I'm still stunned by the value of that truck..Sounds like the early 6.0's are poison or something.

 

[94BULLITT]

I'm still stunned by the value of that truck..Sounds like the early 6.0's are poison or something.

IDK everybody bashes up on the 6.0's so much but they bring a premium.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I'd run equally fast from anything 6.0! Good friend of mine had an 07 F350, turned him off of Ford diesels, and he is a die hard Ford guy. The thought of $6,600 bill for head gaskets was the final straw.

A Ford tech that posts on youtube has good things to say about the 6.7L though.

Have you serviced a Ford 6.7L yet? I love the oil plug design, pretty cool idea.

No. I have been around quite a few but never serviced a 6.7

What is odd about the 6.0 is atleast a dozen of us have them in my boating group and there has been one EGR valve and one guy had to replace 3 injectors. Most are chipped and two have 10 vane turbos for more performance and we just dont have the issues that you hear about.

These trucks have on average 100,000 miles and are used every week to pull boats from 10,000# to 18,000# and occasionally a 25,000# load.

Chris

 

[Egon]

But, the grille looks nice eh.:thumbsup:

 

[Tomtint]

I have had 3 6.0s first one was a 04 then two 06s. One of the 06s blew head gaskets at 8,000 miles then was fine toll 80k when the fuel pump went. Fixed it and traded the next week. My father still has a 06 6.0 with no issues, and he is tough on equipment.

 

[mud23609]

You can't buy a f-250 4x4 ext cab with a 5.4 with a 100k on it here for $12k.

I gave 4500 for a 5.4 powered f-250 this spring with a 8 foot western plow and 136k on it. Even had brand new tires on it. 2000 vintage. Passed on a 99 that was in rough shape with a v-10 and a 8 foot boss for 3600.

The 6.0 is a good engine and if it was bullet proofed already I wouldn't have any issue buying one but the cost to do so is high. End result even though I want to move up to a crew cab drw I'll be making a living with my 01 7.3 for a while yet until the prices come down some on the 6.7 trucks. The 6.4's are pretty good pulling motors as well but are another one I just don't have a warm fuzzy feeling about.

People just don't forget the issues that some of the 6.0's had at first and it makes them a really hard sell when it comes time to unload them. There was lots of good ones but the few that were terrible made the reputation.

 

[deerefan]

No. I have been around quite a few but never serviced a 6.7

What is odd about the 6.0 is atleast a dozen of us have them in my boating group and there has been one EGR valve and one guy had to replace 3 injectors. Most are chipped and two have 10 vane turbos for more performance and we just dont have the issues that you hear about.

These trucks have on average 100,000 miles and are used every week to pull boats from 10,000# to 18,000# and occasionally a 25,000# load.

Chris

That is because you are running and using the 6.0 like it was intended. I had 2- no issues. Both stock, a 04 & and 06.

 

[mudcat47537]

We have had 3 6.0s 04,05 and an 06. All pretty much wanted to live at the dealership. EGRs, head gaskets the 06 had electronics problems. No more Fords now and probably ever again. Boss is buying Chevys and Dodges now and we have not had any problems out of either one.
My buddy who works for a Ford dealer sent me this when 2 of our trucks were in the shop at the same time.