Ford 2000 Engine Seized

[Texasmark]

I buy it online. PB Blaster is really good and in every auto parts store......butttttt K is better...when you need the best to solve the stubborn problem.

 

[treborterb]

Liquid Wrench?

 

[fried1765]

Liquid Wrench?

Liquid Wrench is not nearly as good as KROIL !

 

[Mearntain]

I did say 1.5 years and jtmay have been 2 or 2.5, but nothing crazy. I've only owned it 6 or 7 years myself, and ran it all the time every year, and just parked it a year ago to never try to start it again till now.

Right now I've got whatever is left from the ATF I couldn't suck out and a bit of Sea Foam Deep Creep soaking in the cylinders. Still no luck breaking it loose yet, 10 days in. Also having trouble moving it too much in neutral as well, so it might be i just don't have enough ass to break it loose when in gear, with where it's sitting. If I still don't have luck in a couple days, I may try to hook my truck up to it at engine idle to see if that will do anything.

 

[super55]

I've always had my best success with a breaker bar on the crank pulley. Think of it this way. When you pull it you are trying to get the rings to go past where it is seized on the cylinder wall because the engine is only going to spin one way. If you manually spin the crankshaft bolt and can even get the engine to rotate back even 1/4" that spot is now lubed before you try and run the piston rings and skirt past it. I also have the plugs out so I'm not fighting against a compression stroke on the engine.

 

[Mearntain]

I've always had my best success with a breaker bar on the crank pulley. Think of it this way. When you pull it you are trying to get the rings to go past where it is seized on the cylinder wall because the engine is only going to spin one way. If you manually spin the crankshaft bolt and can even get the engine to rotate back even 1/4" that spot is now lubed before you try and run the piston rings and skirt past it. I also have the plugs out so I'm not fighting against a compression stroke on the engine.

Man, I would much rather throw a breaker bar on the crank and would have done this a week ago if I realized this was possible? I couldn't feel a nut in the crank pulley, but there is one? Do I need to remove the front white cover to access it?

FWIW, I have been removing the plugs when trying to free her, and only putting back in a couple threads when done to prevent trash from getting in the motor when I'm done.

 

[super55]

Should be able to get to it from underneath between the engine and radiator. There definitely should be bolt tucked way under there inside the crank pulley. You'll definitely need an extension on the socket and it's usually a larger socket from 1" to 1 1/4". Some older tractors have a cutout in the grill so you could run a socket through to adjust valves but from pic I looked at the 2000 doesn't look to have that.

Crawl under the tractor with a mirror and look inside the main pulley you should see a bolt head that can give you another spot to work the engine.

 

[Mearntain]

Fantastic, I appreciate it! I will definitely be checking this out tonight. Breaker bars are always so much easier

 

[Texasmark]

Keep us posted.

 

[grsthegreat]

a friend of mine just freed up an old farm tractor using PB Blaster.

tractor is now up and running. Unit had a missing exhaust flapper and after a few years outdoors......oh well.

 

[Mearntain]

I got the old mud hornets nests cleared out the hole on the bottom front end of the Tractor to access the crank. I'll probably sound like an idiot, but the best way I can describe it as is a large 7 point star point hole that I need something to stick in it to try to turn it with a breaker bar - there's not a bolt to put a standard socket on. Can anyone point me in the correct direction to get one of those? If you know the name of the tool and the size I need, that would be even better!

 

[CoyPatton]

I got the old mud hornets nests cleared out the hole on the bottom front end of the Tractor to access the crank. I'll probably sound like an idiot, but the best way I can describe it as is a large 7 point star point hole that I need something to stick in it to try to turn it with a breaker bar - there's not a bolt to put a standard socket on. Can anyone point me in the correct direction to get one of those? If you know the name of the tool and the size I need, that would be even better!

So are you saying it looks like a torx bit screw driver, just a big one?
The bolt heads that are torx shaped the sockets are E-XX. Then the number is like the torx bit size. Sorry I have no clue as to the size of the bolt head.
Good luck with it!

 

[John0829]

When all else fails pull the starter and use a pry bar on the flywheel.

 

[Rebeldad1]

Sounds like you could double your chances by using a second person on the other side tire to help rock it. We always let it sit for a couple days and rocked it with 2 people. It will work loose. And yes can be quite a workout!!
I have pulled out a couple tractors overgrown with blackberries and seized. Pulled the plugs and loaded the cylinders with atf and whatever solvent laying around. Dont put the plugs back in. Doesnt damage anything by over filling because the oil will get pushed out once it starts turning over. When free add some more ATF just to flush out any crap in the cylinders. Crank for a while, drain the oil, replace the plugs and start it. There wont be any chance of hydraulicing. It does make a mess though by pushing oil into the exhaust, smokes for a while.


I cant help think using a crank bolt to force it would be a great idea. For one the bolt isnt sized and strong enough to withstand a great amount of torque. Also by reversing force it just loosens the bolt. Worse case if the bolt breaks you will have much greater problems.
Towing it you might get lucky, worse case may score a cylinder (or worse).

 

[Rebeldad1]

When all else fails pull the starter and use a pry bar on the flywheel.

What happens when you break off a tooth or two?

 

[Mearntain]

So are you saying it looks like a torx bit screw driver, just a big one?
The bolt heads that are torx shaped the sockets are E-XX. Then the number is like the torx bit size. Sorry I have no clue as to the size of the bolt head.
Good luck with it!

Yep that's correct, looks just like a torx bit, but I assumed it wasn't one due to the age, guess that's what I get for thinking! I'll see if I can't find a way to determine the size so I know what to buy, appreciate it.

 

[JethroB]

As said before, using the crankshaft nut may not be a good idea buts it’s tempting. You will either be over-tightening the nut, loosening it, or stripping it out. Or worse. Have you tried a 2x4 under the rear wheel as a cheater bar for rocking it?

 

[Mearntain]

As said before, using the crankshaft nut may not be a good idea buts it’s tempting. You will either be over-tightening the nut, loosening it, or stripping it out. Or worse. Have you tried a 2x4 under the rear wheel as a cheater bar for rocking it?

No, I haven't tried that yet. May give that a shot this evening if the grounds not too wet, appreciate the idea. Wish I had a second person who could help me rock it but unfortunately don't.

 

[John0829]

What happens when you break off a tooth or two?

Very, very unlikely to happen unless you act like King Kong and even then it is unlikely to happen.

 

[K5lwq]

I have had good luck pulling the head, poring oil on top of the pistons and let it sit for an hour or so. Then using a block of wood and a hammer to drive down on the piston that is highest. Usually will break free with little effort.

Once free, I rotate the engine through several times and soak up any remaining oil off of the cylinder before going back together.

This is the quickest way I know even though it requires some wrenching.