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ugabulldog

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'04 MF 451 diesel shuttle shift w/ MF 1040 loader
I am okay, except for pride... tractor sat on left side for about 30 min at most before I got it flipped back over, and it has sat for 24 hrs without trying to start. I have read it is a good idea to remove glow/plug/or injector and turn by hand before trying to start with key in case there is oil in the cylinders. According to my shop manual I have to remove cylinder head cover to remove glow plugs or injectors and it looks like I have to remove fuel tank first. Also, to turn by hand do I need to remove radiator and fan to access , or can I just try to turn belt? There is not much access to tractor as it have FEL frame attached. Also, I am not very mechanically inclined. Should I try to start with key first to see what happens?
 
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I don't know about your MF but when I turned my tractor over on it's side, I started mine with the key after it set without doing anything else. That was over 3 years ago and it didn't cause any problems. When I talked to my dealer, he said that it should be fine to go ahead and start it and he was right.
 
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I tried to start with key, I can hear fuel pump running, lights are on, and battery has 12v but engine won't turn over at all, or even click? Does this sound like hydro lock? If so, do I need to pull gas tank to get to head cover and remove glow plugs? And do I need to replace head gasket when installing back? Also, do I need to remove radiator and/or fan to turn by hand? I am hoping there is an easier solution.
 
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Neighbor had his big 'ol 42' wide rotary cutter drag his BIG IH Case down a pretty steep slope and finally it - the tractor - went over on its side. Understandably - there was little he could do during this entire scenario - lest he become entangled and get mauled or mashed. Within an hour - he had the rotary cutter disconnected and the Case upright. Apparently - none the worse - he said it fired right up - short burst of blue/grey smoke and back to work.
 
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If you did want to turn it over by hand, you might use the pto.

Some have over running clutches in the power train. I don't know about yours. You should be able to rock the engine from the pto at any rate.
 
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I've never "gone over" with my tractor. With my first tractor I came within a hairs width of doing it. Down in the driveway valley where there is a ten foot drop off, off the side of the driveway. Lifting a full bucket of wet sand - the rear tires came up SO FAST and the tractor began to pivot on the front axle pivot pin. I hit the lever - tractor went down so fast and hard - bounced on the rear tires. Knees so weak - almost fell getting off the tractor. Sat there a good 15 minutes - regaining my composure. That particular incident is hard wired into my memory.

Every once in a while - eat too many hot peppers at dinner - I have a weird dream. I get pinned under my new heavy duty rear blade on my tractor. God only knows how I could get in that position - there is only about two feet clearance between rear blade and ground. Anyhow - last thought - here come the coyotes and they are gonna eat me - I wake up.
 
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Yikes! That's your subconscious mind reminding you to be careful.

To the Op; glad that you didn't get hurt. Hopefully you didn't damage your tractor, but to quote one TBN member's signature, "a serious accident is one that money can't fix."
 
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I tried to start with key, I can hear fuel pump running, lights are on, and battery has 12v but engine won't turn over at all, or even click? Does this sound like hydro lock? If so, do I need to pull gas tank to get to head cover and remove glow plugs? And do I need to replace head gasket when installing back? Also, do I need to remove radiator and/or fan to turn by hand? I am hoping there is an easier solution.

If this was a gasoline engine, I'd suggest pulling the plugs and see if it will crank. But I don't know nuthin' 'bout no diesels.
 
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Yikes! That's your subconscious mind reminding you to be careful.

To the Op; glad that you didn't get hurt. Hopefully you didn't damage your tractor, but to quote one TBN member's signature, "a serious accident is one that money can't fix."


That quote sounds vaguely familiar, glad it has made an impression enough to be repeated.
I would let the tractor set for 24, then turn it over by hand, ie the fan belt, even if hydro locks, I would think it would eventually go thru a full turn of the engine because the liquid will eventually bleed past the rings if slow even pressure is kept on it. Once it does rotate, I would rotate it several times by hand before using the Key. However, be VERY CAREFUL when rotating the engine by hand, some will start up once conditions are correct for running. Don't want to loose a hand or worse in the blade or spinning pulleys. Before I started it, I would also check the oil and smell it to make sure there is no diesel fuel in the oil. Wouldn't hurt to change it now, but most people would want to get the tractor running before they spent the money on an oil change. If it cranks, don't touch the throttle till the smoke clears up, and then shut it off and change the fluids.
David from jax
 

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