Tires Flatless Tires

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BigMike

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New Mexico/Texas
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Kubota B7800
My land in high desert and has some tough cactus like plants and I am thinking about having foam put into my front tires (R4) to make them flatless. I already have a slow leak in one of them with only 9 hours seat time. Any comments, experiences, thoughts? Also, would like to get an idea of price for this procedure and who does it besides tractor dealers.
 
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I had a problem with that stuff on a tractor I bought used. When I checked the air pressure some of that goo came out and ruined the digital tire guage I was using. Any time I let air out, that goo would come out like a kind of light mist on my hand, so I finally changed the tire. That stuff was in sort of a semi liquid state and was light tan color. I think it was probably dissolving in the moisture in the air in the tire, and then coming out like an aerosol. I'm not sure if it was done properly or even who did it, so maybe that won't happen if it's installed correctly.
 
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Wow, that sounds ugly. But brings up a good question to ask when checking with installers. Thanks
 
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We have problems around here with locust thorns. I've used slime in the tires on my JD 455 with good results. Haven't put any in the MF yet but will if I have problems. I think the slime or similar products will not be as expensive as filling the tire with foam. Good luck.
 
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After getting a flat on my B2910 within hours of delivery, I decided to get the front tires foam filled. That was almost two years ago now. I am glad I did it.

My cost was about $140 total for two tires. I have no regrets.

I rarely remember the front tires are foam filled, except when I am in a place where I see glass or something else that might cause a puncture...then I do remember and don't worry at all... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I got my tires filled at a tire place that my dealer told me about. Don't know if tractor dealers normally do this or not as it seems around here they don't. I guess it takes special equipment/expertise or both.

Foam filled tires are much heavier than air filled tires. Duh! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif So there is an advantage as far as improving stability on a slope. I was surprised at how much the weight difference was.

I figured I would wait and worry about foam filling my rear tires after getting a puncture. I did fill the rears with WW fluid. To date no problems so I guess I won't need foam in the rears... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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I had my BX22 tires filled with Arnco Superflex Soft Fill. The difference I was shown with the Arnco product was that it was much more flexible than regular foam. I think I paid around $1.20 something a pound if i remember correct. It added about 50 pounds in each front tire and 150 pounds each for the rears.

Well worth it for me also as I have numerous locust trees around.

Dave
 
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Thanks for the info, I am trying to find a dealer for the Arnco Superflex Soft Fill. Probably only have the front tires done for now. I was told that the r4 rear tires are very thick and probably won't need it, but like Henro, if the need arises and the cost is reasonable, I'm there.
 
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I found my Arnco dealer by sending them an email. A week or so later I got a call from a dealer who, fortunately, was only half an hour drive away. They kept my tires for three days after filling to let the fill cure, curing time depends on the tire size.

Here is a link to Arnco if you need it.

Arnco

Dave...
 
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Mike, I have to ask since I think we have some of the same plants, and I know after mine gets delivered we will have the same tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Do you know what got your tire. Please don't say a yucca because I have jillions of them even after spending five years tearing them out with a shovel and a wheel barrow. The reasoning behind my new Toothbar /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Please don't say yucca, please don't say yucca. Anyway, do you know?

Mike
 
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Poppa,
I am not really sure what the problem is, it is a very slow leak. Pretty sure it is not a yucca. I have quite a few of those, but they are easy to see and avoid. I suspect a type of cactus that is very low growing and has about a 1" thorn. Good thing is the thorns are not very stiff, so the tires tend to just bend them, but on some of the older plants, the thorns are a little stiffer. I noticed several of these types of cactus had stuck between the treads on my R4's. I think the rear tires are thick enough to withstand the thorns, but front tires are thinner. Did you get the R4's?
 
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Yes sir, got the R-4s and I also have some very low growing cactus with nasty thorns. Look almost like a grouping of miniature barrel cactuses but about the size of a beer can and only about an inch or so actually stick up out of the ground. Didn't even know I had those until the dog started finding them. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I know that keeping a wheelbarrow, my old riderlawnmower or just about any other small air-filled tire in tact has been a challenge. All slow leaks and I assume, all cactus related. I've just about given up patching and just know I have to air everything up before I use it. Cars and trucks seem to do ok and I am hoping the Tractor is as lucky as them.

Anyway, hopefully the tractor gets delivered in the next week and one of the first jobs is bush hogging the whole area. I figure a couple days after that I should know how the tires did. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I'll let you know.

My three year old daughter looked at me this morning and said, "Poppa, waiting is hard." I laughed and tried to tell her how much fun something is after you have had to wait for it for a while and how instant gratification just makes you go on to the next want. She looked at me and I could just tell she thought I was as full of #@$% as I knew I was. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mike
 
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I know this is an old thread but I am thinking of filling all my tires and wondering if there is any new product out there.

Or how the Arnco superflex is holding up?

Thorns are a part of life on our pastures.
 
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Not real sure what my dealer uses, but they filled both of my front tires with sealant and the back tires with water plus sealant. No flats yet and no charge for doing it either:D
 
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Brian

Did your dealer have any idea how long that sealant will last?

Who is your dealer?

I have't decided on a dealer yet. But Texas seems to have some good prices.
 
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gilliganfarmer said:
Brian

Did your dealer have any idea how long that sealant will last?

Who is your dealer?

I have't decided on a dealer yet. But Texas seems to have some good prices.
He didn't say how long it will last. I can check though since I am going by after work today to pick up my 6ft BB. The dealer I went to is Victoria Oliver Company Victoria, Texas
 
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I've been searching for dealers and I really liked the guys over at Victoria Olivers.

I wish I could drive over and meet the guy in person and test drive the L3400 before I buy it. I've only spoken to him on the phone.

They have the best price so far.
 
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gilliganfarmer said:
I've been searching for dealers and I really liked the guys over at Victoria Olivers.

I wish I could drive over and meet the guy in person and test drive the L3400 before I buy it. I've only spoken to him on the phone.

They have the best price so far.
Did you talk to Calvin or Brad?
 
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I have spoken to so many dealers that I can't remember what his name is. I think it was Oscar.
 
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gilliganfarmer said:
I've been searching for dealers and I really liked the guys over at Victoria Olivers.

I wish I could drive over and meet the guy in person and test drive the L3400 before I buy it. I've only spoken to him on the phone.

They have the best price so far.
You won't be disappointed in the L3400. I love mine so far:D
 

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