Fixing Up the Ol Puter

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SLOBuds

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We bought a computer in 1997. It had this really neat operating system called 'Windows 95'. I went all out and put in 257 meg of ram along with a 15gig scsi hard drive. Pentium II.

Folks by the name of SAG sold it to us. They are all probably tilling acreage with a 3830 these days.

Anyway, SAG lasted through y2k and beyond those dark days when everything was supposed to end. It never had a virus, ever. It runs all of the time, every day of the year. We never turn it off.

In 2002 we bought a P4 with a delightful operating system called Windows XP. The SAG was networked in with the new P4.

Life was getting complicated at home where the wife works. So she was also on the network with a laptop, plus me with my work laptop from time to time, and then various business visitors with THEIR laptops connecting here and there. (I was the first PacBell DSL install in my area.)

Have Cat5, will travel ... until wireless came on board which just added that dimension. Then 3 printers. Fax machine. 2-line telephone with speakerphone. Then mobile devices like a Blackberry and synchronized cell phones (that take pretty good digital pictures, by the way). A nice digital camera now working somewhere in the 9400th image. More software than ANYONE should ever have.

My wife Susan liked to use SAG for her EMail. We kept Eudora on that 95 machine and it just felt natural to her.

About 8 weeks ago I had surgery to remove my kidney and donate it to my son. Lots of time on my hands. I got to thinking about SAG.

SAG was making noises. They were noises which sounded like big bugs getting zapped on those blue bug zapper electrode machines. Eventually SAG refused to boot. I tried and tried but no go.

So then I went for open heart surgery. SAG, not me.

Man, there is DUST everywhere inside those old PCs. Little tiny dust that builds up into big sand dunes. I cleaned out the dust, pulled out the hard drive, and connected it to Mr. XP so I could copy as much data as I could. That went OK except that not everything copied.

Then I put SAG together again and loaded a new operating system. Actually, it was an old discarded Windows 2000 that we had hanging around.

Booted up fine, but zapping noises continued.

I unplugged one drive at a time (the poor thing was loaded with all kinds of gadgets over the years). Finally I determined that it was one of the cooling fans. There is a cooling fan in the power supply - it wasn't going at all. There is a cooling fan for the CPU - I broke the wires off while trying to inspect it. There is a cooling fan for the cabinet - it was making a bunch of scratchy noise itself.

So believe it or not, all of these parts are still available. Today I ordered a new power supply, a cpu fan, and a cabinet fan.

SAG is currently antesthsized in our bathroom (my wife really loves me). It will stay there for a week or so until I receive all of the new parts and exchange all of the ones that were supposed to fit but don't.

Then we'll see if old SAG can come back to life again and give us its all for another 10 years.

I've had a great time working with SAG. It's almost as fun as the rotary phone we have up in our cabin.
 
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Good luck, and I hope you keep ol SAG running.

Interesting, that my yr 2000 Gateway has been making noises, which I had been thinking was the hard drive. Long story short, the system went down a month ago, I put a new hard drive in as Master, and got the system running. Heard the same startup noise - aha, decided it was the fan all along. Now have the old drive as a slave so I can keep files (backed them all up now too!).

Toying with the idea to put the XP system on in place of the Win98Se, but maybe not.
 
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I like XP the best. When you do that, though, don't do an 'upgrade'. Do a fresh install. Microsoft had lots of trouble with that upgrade routine and it left the PCs with all sorts of problems.

One thing I did with the SAG, between 95 and 2000, was to put on Linyx. Big mistake (for me at least). EVERYTHING had to be done manually and there was an entire new language to come to know. So then I went over to W2k which I had hanging around the house from years ago - went in without any trouble at all, 'saw' all of my hardware, 'knew' about the home network, etc.

Good luck on those noisy fans.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Good luck on those noisy fans.)</font>

I had a noisy fan on my HP Laptop - started screeching and wailin'. I took it back to CompUSA - "at least $125, and you'll have to leave it a week." Took it home, took out the fan, measured it, copied the specs, and found a replacement on the web. The new fan didn't come with connectors, so I took the old fan, cut off the wires/connector and soldered them to the new fan, added heatshrink tubing, and crammed the whole mess back into the small space. A lot of work, but it sure was quiet.

Worked great for a year until the familiar sound came back. Took the fan out and the label on the motor's hub fell off - exposing a small ball bearing. One drop of sewing machine oil - a year later it is still quiet.
 
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Yep I have had to work some on my old puter. Upgraded it from DOS to Win 3.1. And upgraded it to run on kerosene instead of coal. The kerosene is not nearly as stinky, wife likes it a lot better. Would offroad diesel work ok in it ?
I also felt that I needed to upgrade my drive capacity, so I put in another 360K 5 1/4" floppy. That was much better. Also thought my 110 modem was a bit slow, so I upgraded to a 1200 baud, Wow what a difference!
One good thing about win3.1, nobody targets it with virius's. Now I suppose I will have to get a firewall. I thought they banned asbestos ? What do they make firewalls out of now-a-days?

The funny part is that I have actually been junking a couple of my old systems that were pretty much as described above. Anyone remember MGA/CGA ? And a FULL 640 K of ram /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Or the blazing speed of 1200 baud ?

Ben
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I like XP the best. When you do that, though, don't do an 'upgrade'. Do a fresh install. Microsoft had lots of trouble with that upgrade routine and it left the PCs with all sorts of problems. )</font>

That's always the best idea, no matter what Microserf OS you're installing. Upgrades are asking for trouble. It's like rebuilding an engine and putting in the old oil.

Make sure you read and understand the license agreement on XP. By installing it, you've given MS permission to snoop inside your machine.

You also have limited reinstalls.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Anyone remember MGA/CGA ? And a FULL 640 K of ram /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Or the blazing speed of 1200 baud ?)</font>


Whoa, I go back farther than that. My first computer was a CPM machine. I wrote a bunch of love letters to my wife on that thing. Printed out on a dot matrix printer, of course. Email? What's that?

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Two words for you Ben: 'Commodore Vic20'. (Or is that 3 words???)

I got myself a 300 baud modem and learned how to dial into a BBS not too far from my home. They were advertised in the newspaper. But once you were lucky enough to get online, the BBS had telephone numbers for other BBS's. Etc.

One time the guy I dialed into posted the wrong telephone number for another different BBS. I called that number (remember that you had to dial the number on the phone, and then when you heard the modem handshake you then started your BBS software). There was an angry guy on the other end of the line saying that he was getting strange schreeching sounds on his phone for over a week and they wouldn't go away.

Trying to be helpful, I said 'well heck, it's an innocent mistake: Mr. Bill over at Bills BBS put your telephone number on his BBS by mistake. Give him a call and I'm sure he will get it fixed.'

3 days later I get a call from Mr. Bill telling me that my little report resulted in a complaint to the telephone company and the PUC and they were causing all told problems for him. Mr. Bill was ready to kill, and there I was for the killing.

I was stunned. I was horrified that I had caused so much trouble for this vastly superior person who knows the ins and outs of computer technology. I knew that I would be punished for the rest of my life.

So here I am today 30 years later. After that many years of therapy nothing has seemed to help with that one slip of 300 baud indescretion.

I'm sorry, Mr. Bill.
 
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Martin,
Yep went thru the VIC 20 C64 and C128, CPM machine.
Actually started out in early 70's on HP mini computers. Had a whole 16K of mag core ram /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Software was efficient back then though, unlike today.

Ben
 
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I need to clean my glasses. I thought this was a thread about Viagra or one of the related drugs.

Chuck
 

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