First loader..how does this FEL placement look?

[Desert Bred]

Is this recessed too far back? Should it be more forward.. I removed the bumper and just welded/bolted the adapter plate onto the frame..

The loader is a MF216-

 

[sd455dan]

I would install the FEL without the bucket (supported by an engine cherry picker or some other form of adequate support) and make sure the cross brace will clear the front of the tractors hood.

You may want to check this before finish welding and bolting the frame.. hope this makes sense, some loader cross braces don't have much clearance

Here's a shot of mine -see how close the cross beam is to the hood- also the loader forward brace looks kind of low ??
The FEL is going to have a width that cannot be adjusted ,so the support frame has to be set to the correct width also...
can you post some more pictures of the support frame and FEL- it might help

also Congrats on getting a loader, they are the handiest add on to a tractor
and the uses seem to be endless

 

[Desert Bred]

Great idea i didn't think of removing the bucket to check. that would definitely work as long as the front bumper mount will hold it i think it may without the bucket.

here are some more pics.. this would be one of my first welding jobs so i'm hesitant to start. the frame of the FEL is much shorter than i expected - the arms don't even reach to the back axel, and even seem to be hanging much lower than needed. chop. i don't have the fel on hand but came across this one from a member here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/105265...key=Gv1sRgCMentZvsy6yi9wE#5740938277018160514



thanks for the ideas. i really appreciate it. i wouldn'tve thought about that one.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I think I would add on to the sub-frame to extend it back far enough to tie on to the axles. Even if you could find some place to bolt it to at the position now, it wont be very strong. I am thinking that the position you have mounted it to in front is too close. Also make sure that you are able to open the hood for service.

 

[Desert Bred]

Here goes.. it's almost recessed completely back into position with 3-4" it will need to go back. this loader looks like its resting high in my opinion but the cylinders look like they can still go down a bit.
the power steering cylinder is in the way.
the vertical intake column is in the way
the muffler is in the way.

 

[Xfaxman]

Here goes.. it's almost recessed completely back into position with 3-4" it will need to go back. this loader looks like its resting high in my opinion but the cylinders look like they can still go down a bit.
the power steering cylinder is in the way.
the vertical intake column is in the way
the muffler is in the way.

The loader looks too small, I don't think the bucket will reach the ground.

 

[alchemysa]

The loader looks too small, I don't think the bucket will reach the ground.

Agreed. It might be an optical illusion but it looks like the forward arms are going to be almost vertical when the bucket is on the ground. Structurally thats not good. And you wont be able to curl the bucket enough either. It looks far higher above the front wheels than mine.

 

[Desert Bred]

i'm afraid you guys are right

 

[PANHAPP]

I think that loader is identical to the one I had on my 641 Ford. It worked great on that size tractor.

Pan

 

[rdbigfarmboy]

It can be used on that tractor. It depends on what you expect to load or use it for. I would lower the front subframe mounting points a bit and definitely brace to the rear axle.

 

[Desert Bred]

I just lowered the front end 3 inches on the bumper mount and looks like we have lift off. is that bucket too small though?

 

[Desert Bred]

:thumbsup:

 

[rdbigfarmboy]

I would stay with that. the bucket will hold all you can lift.
I have put 5 loaders on tractors none were made for the size I mounted them on.
Looks good to me.

 

[sd455dan]

OUTSTANDING :thumbsup:

 

[Desert Bred]

Thanks guys!

 

[Clint S]

:thumbsup: If it works for what you need it for that is all that matters.

 

[alchemysa]

It can be used on that tractor. It depends on what you expect to load or use it for. I would lower the front subframe mounting points a bit and definitely brace to the rear axle.

If only the front mount is lowered the bucket wont have any curl at all and would probably not even be level when the bucket is on the ground.

(edit) I think the latest pic, posted while I was posting, kinda proves my point.

 

[Desert Bred]

i see that in comparison to other pics as well on the net by the amount of ram showing from the curling cylinders.

 

[alchemysa]

i see that in comparison to other pics as well on the net by the amount of ram showing from the curling cylinders.

You've done well to get this far. But if the bucket isnt at least level when its on the ground its going to make any loader work pretty frustrating. Having no curl means you'll lose half your load, and you'll have to carry the bucket very high which not the safest thing to do, and can make for dirty work in windy conditions. You'll also have no 'break out' force, which is usually very important when digging into clumpy ground or a hard packed dirt or sand pile.

Dunno what you can do about it. Maybe the bucket hinge points can be looked at.

Ideally when the bucket is on the ground you want to be able to raise the front edge at least 20degrees. (Just guessing)

 

[Desert Bred]

I hear you there. Lowering the mid frame isn't feasible. Lowering the top pin holes probably not worth it- haven't checked with hydraulics til the week but- really, a smaller loader such as this vs/ a bigger loader using the same tractor pump- is there any advantage to having a smaller one besides perhaps speed? probably not so stepping up like someone said might be the best next step.
Thanks for the encouragement and the mental fix.
db