Filter removal without a gorilla

[JRobyn]

These always work for me. 2" to 4-1/4" Oil Filter Wrench

In at least one case (the first high-pressure hydraulic filter change on the Kubota) it was the ONLY of several filter wrenches I have that would do it. What makes it work well is that you can clamp it right at the outside edge of the filter "plate" instead of just the thin crunchable outer skin.

Kubota (and probably other manufacturers) are notorious for painting AFTER the filter is installed, or maybe spinning the brand new filter on while the housing paint is not fully cured. The dried paint makes an excellent sealer/adhesive.

 

[dickfoster]

These always work for me. 2" to 4-1/4" Oil Filter Wrench

In at least one case (the first high-pressure hydraulic filter change on the Kubota) it was the ONLY of several filter wrenches I have that would do it. What makes it work well is that you can clamp it right at the outside edge of the filter "plate" instead of just the thin crunchable outer skin.

Kubota (and probably other manufacturers) are notorious for painting AFTER the filter is installed, or maybe spinning the brand new filter on while the housing paint is not fully cured. The dried paint makes an excellent sealer/adhesive.

Mahindra for one installs the filters then spray paints everything including the filters, wiring harnesses, alternator and even the fan belts. I've never seen such nonsense.

 

[sixdogs]

Chain wrench gets everything.

Boy, that's the truth. If you can get it on, that filter is coming off. I saw a HUGE Deere filter, that resisted everything thrown at it, break free in a couple seconds.

 

[Oaktree]

Mahindra for one installs the filters then spray paints everything including the filters, wiring harnesses, alternator and even the fan belts. I've never seen such nonsense.

Seems like they all do it. I used to have a JD750 that everything including the belt was painted. Original filter thankfully had been replaced.

Unless there isn't enough space between the filter and the engine to get it in there.

Not a tractor, but many years ago a ladyfriend had a Suburu pseudo-sports car with a 6 in it. Oil filter was recessed in something (forget what...this was 25+ years ago), and the last guy who did an oil change must have had King Kong put the filter on. Had a helluva time getting it off. Didn't know about a chain wrench at the time, but I'm not sure it would have fit anyway, band wrench just barely did, and there really wasn't enough room to get any leverage.

 

[KubotaToy]

I have always had good luck getting hard to remove filters off with this version.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Foe what it's worth, this is what the too I tried looks like. I've tried it 2x now and it's failed both times only resulting in a crushed filter.

CTA Strap-Type Oil Filter Wrench | Tire Details | Pep Boys

I wouldn't waste my money on that strap. Likelyhood of getting it into position to use on most oil filters is pretty slim and getting that strap to hold would be another issue. A chain type strap wrench or the HF oil filter pliers works or even the band type although I did bend my band type handle taking off one of my hydraulic filters. It did release but only have crunching the handle.

 

[downsizingnow48]

Never had a chain wrench. Might get one. Seem to be various designs. Are there features or brands to look for?

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Never had a chain wrench. Might get one. Seem to be various designs. Are there features or brands to look for?

They all work the same.

Crescent Chain Wrench 24 Inch - Adjustable Wrenches - Amazon.com

 

[downsizingnow48]

Thx appreciate the info.

 

[truckdiagnostics]

Never had much luck with the screw driver through the filter. If it is stuck enough that you have to jam a screw driver through it most of the time you will destroy the filter before it comes off. The chain wrench works, but it collapses the filter half the time and you need a lot of room to swing it. The pic has what i could find in the tool box. I have a band wrench similar to the band wrench with the handle for really larger filters, but a 1/2 in extension fits in it and you can use a 1/2 inch breaker bar, that works the best. Can't seam to find it, chances are the kids got it. Don't you hate that:yell: The impact is there for when you destroy it with the screw driver and have to knock it around to remove it. The small black socket is slick fits right over the filter, can snug up the filter slips off before it get to tight. Not going to help now. The silver one with the fingers works well on the smaller filters

 

[truckdiagnostics]

Found a pic, they are not cheap. They work the best.

The one I have is wider for the large hydraulic and truck oil filters. Just asked the kid he knows nothing about it.
Watch it will magically appear.ullinghair:

 

[countrybumpkin]

Here is another style that works real good if you have room to use them.

 

[von-mil]

That spring-coil version looks like a great idea. I've never seen one until just now. And it can be used for removal only, not for filter install - which is a good thing.

 

[Illini22]

I was going to change my filters this evening when I ran into a somewhat expected snag. NH hires gorillas to install their filters! I assume the oil filter wasn't lubricated and is locked in place. I tried my Orielly filter strap wrench (connects to a 1/2" wrench) but only got a few degrees of rotation before having clearance issues. I don't have a filter socket, but after using a strap, I'm pretty sure it's too buggered up for that. I know about pliers but have heard they can destroy the filter potentially before completely removed. Any suggestions?

I believe that gorilla got fired from kioti for overtightning filters. I'm supersede they hired him after all the people (myself included) complaining about him.

 

[sdef]

I have not had an insurmountable problem with engine oil filters and can get them off with one of the standard methods everyone will mention, including a screwdriver through the filter a couple times. However, KIOTI is known for their factory HST filter being nearly impossible to remove. After numerous tries with all of the normal filter tools, along with additional strap wrench types over two weeks of time, I finally purchased a Crescent chain wrench, added a 32" extension and a large friend on the handle.

I am a fan of good quality, steel, filter sockets.

 

[greif]

The best way I found to remove those tight filters was go get the torch out and heat them up to red hot, then they expand and loosen up..........

Yes this is a joke.. do not try a home

 

[DieselBound]

I know that I've used an old, leather trouser belt before, but cannot recall whether it worked. Same principle as a strap wrench.

I love my older VW TDIs in this regard. Top-side oil changes (via extractor). Cartridge oil filters: cup socket on top; and I always use my torque wrench to tighten- I don't trust myself (Mr. Murphy is always hanging out distracting me!)

What's disconcerting about all of this over-torquing is that if the factory isn't following their own torquing guidelines (usually, with spin-ons, it's turn to contact and then some fraction of a turn) then what else are they not torquing properly?

 

[DieselBound]

The best way I found to remove those tight filters was go get the torch out and heat them up to red hot, then they expand and loosen up..........

Yes this is a joke.. do not try a home

Or, as some folks (as lore would have it) do, they never change fluids, just run things until they cannot run anymore and then get another machine. That, or just trade in for a new machine when it's time for the next fluid change!:laughing:

 

[truckdiagnostics]

Agree the chain wrench will work well and is the tool of choice on a hydraulic oil filter. Keep in mind it is thicker than an engine oil filter.

 

[crreed67]

I've had good luck with these, different brand though. They can be bought individually also since you probably will only need one or two different sizes.

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